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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 17, 2006 11:03:59 GMT -5
Any of you guys see the Movie Imagine? They been playing it alot on the movie channels lately.. you really feel for Julian after watching that.. I have to admit I still think "Hey jude" is the best song ever written. I can still cry like a little school-girl when I hear that one.
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 11:04:29 GMT -5
"Sitting on a pebble by the river playing guitar" I agree with you Vom. Julian got the short end of the stick. Instead Lennon gave most of his attention to Sean who like his Mother has about as much talent as a stick. Fookin Yoko is the anti-Christ. what a great tune right?...my favorite line is "we're really not as clever as we seem to think we are..."...love that song and "too late for goodbyes" Vom if you like that album you've got to pick up "Help yourself" By far was Julian's best work. Great songs on that one. Check out the lyrics to "Salt water" they're great! |
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 17, 2006 11:09:03 GMT -5
what a great tune right?...my favorite line is "we're really not as clever as we seem to think we are..."...love that song and "too late for goodbyes" i'll check it out Vom if you like that album you've got to pick up "Help yourself" By far was Julian's best work. Great songs on that one. Check out the lyrics to "Salt water" they're great! |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 11:14:43 GMT -5
I've got it along with some other funny stuff on a cassette tape. That's how old that bit is. Let me know if you want a copy of it. I might have to take you up on that |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 11:16:20 GMT -5
Any of you guys see the Movie Imagine? They been playing it alot on the movie channels lately.. you really feel for Julian after watching that.. I have to admit I still think "Hey jude" is the best song ever written. I can still cry like a little school-girl when I hear that one. I think dust in the wind is the greatest single song ever written..just my opinion =) |
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Post by natemeanie on Feb 17, 2006 11:16:41 GMT -5
i am definitely on the opposite end of the spectrum. so many of my favorite songs are ones that lack great production or mind blowing solos - but they have an honest energy that just grabs you or a melody that you just can't get out of your head. not that i don't admire the guys who can play their a$$ off and know every scale in the book, because i do. my jaw drops when i see a great "musician" play - mostly because i don't have the dedication or discipline to do that. but a great lick or great solo outside of the context of a great SONG doesn't stick with me the same way that a great song will even if it is performed by retards (in a technical sense). example, in 50 years people will still be writing books about the sex pistols, while DeMartini, while a great player, will be nothing more than a footnote...... any books written about the sex pistols will not be about their music..it'll be about sid vicious and sh!t that he did that was my point, basically...... they acheived what they acheived because of songs and attitude, not their musicianship..... sid vicious had nothing to do with any writing and was in the band for less than a year. guy was a tard..... |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 11:17:42 GMT -5
ever see Sid and Nancy?
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Post by natemeanie on Feb 17, 2006 11:19:16 GMT -5
with gary oldman......
yeah, it's pretty terrible and very inaccurate, at least from the band perspective....
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 11:23:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't know..I never hung out with the sex pistols so I have no idea how accurate it is  gary oldman is great |
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Post by natemeanie on Feb 17, 2006 11:26:52 GMT -5
me neither - just read books and seen some documentaries.
oldman is very good though.....
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Post by shawn on Feb 17, 2006 12:24:34 GMT -5
Bummer that you didn't get to A/B these as I'm really interested in seeing how the Cameron held up form someone who isnt already a "drop on your knees and blow Mark Cameron" guy ;D. I've been offered a few of them a couple different times and passed and people can't believe I passed on them ;D I also don't want to send an amp to a guy who'll have it for a year or more. Some of the Cameron clips I heard were killer tho but not enough for me want to drop the coin on one. I buy amps usually out of the blue and I just wasnt in the market for one when offered to me.
I'm really happy with my QR and think the tone per dollar is the bast bang for the buck right now.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Feb 17, 2006 13:56:35 GMT -5
All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better. My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death. Ohh Craig.......*sigh* ....there's just no telling you because you are an expert.  First of all DO NOT compare the Pumpkins to Radiohead. The pumpkins wrote some great songs but you are right in the fact that they did nothing groundbreakingly new. They aren't even in the same league as Radiohead. Have you listen to their last album Hail to the Thief? Obviously not because you wouldn't have made naive cooments like that. Though I am sure you find a way to label it as "overrated, unmusical, blah blah". Whether you like the songs or not, there is NO way you can say that it is overdone. Name me one famous pop band doing anything remotely close to that. Sure the guitars are not "ripping and technical masterpieces" but the soundscapes are masterpieces. If you took all of your time trainnig on scales and put that effort into use of effects and production and applied that to a song it would be the same thing. THrefore you cannot say something played masterfully yet differently is horrible. You know white people killed our people with thoughts of "different is wrong". ;D |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 14:07:15 GMT -5
All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better. My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death. Ohh Craig.......*sigh* ....there's just no telling you because you are an expert. First of all DO NOT compare the Pumpkins to Radiohead. The pumpkins wrote some great songs but you are right in the fact that they did nothing groundbreakingly new. They aren't even in the same league as Radiohead. Have you listen to their last album Hail to the Thief? Obviously not because you wouldn't have made naive cooments like that. Though I am sure you find a way to label it as "overrated, unmusical, blah blah". Whether you like the songs or not, there is NO way you can say that it is overdone. Name me one famous pop band doing anything remotely close to that. Sure the guitars are not "ripping and technical masterpieces" but the soundscapes are masterpieces. If you took all of your time trainnig on scales and put that effort into use of effects and production and applied that to a song it would be the same thing. THrefore you cannot say something played masterfully yet differently is horrible. You know white people killed our people with thoughts of "different is wrong". ;D I listened to the clips on amazon.com some of the most bizarre stuff I've heard in a long time...lol |
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Post by uncletom on Feb 17, 2006 14:11:32 GMT -5
All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better. My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death. Ohh Craig.......*sigh* ....there's just no telling you because you are an expert. First of all DO NOT compare the Pumpkins to Radiohead. The pumpkins wrote some great songs but you are right in the fact that they did nothing groundbreakingly new. They aren't even in the same league as Radiohead. Have you listen to their last album Hail to the Thief? Obviously not because you wouldn't have made naive cooments like that. Though I am sure you find a way to label it as "overrated, unmusical, blah blah". Whether you like the songs or not, there is NO way you can say that it is overdone. Name me one famous pop band doing anything remotely close to that. Sure the guitars are not "ripping and technical masterpieces" but the soundscapes are masterpieces. If you took all of your time trainnig on scales and put that effort into use of effects and production and applied that to a song it would be the same thing. THrefore you cannot say something played masterfully yet differently is horrible. You know white people killed our people with thoughts of "different is wrong". ;D yew know...I's jus a stupid ol' fool...aint nobody listen to me anyhow...but, ther is somthin' special happens when a GROUP of people get together and write powerful songs...its bigger than any individual self propelled thing...for som-un to suggest that a individual musician soloing is BETTER or more interesting than a group of songwriters with chemistry...well naw, thats jus not very intuitive or wise...we's all like different things and that is aw-right...but for one to think what they like is BETTER or more important or superior etc...that is jus down-rite short-sitedness...and the hobgoblin of jack-asses...an by the way...whitey done jacked me too! |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 14:24:30 GMT -5
different is ok..unless something likes something different than what I like...that's just plain wrong!
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