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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 17, 2006 10:27:03 GMT -5
Aw c'mon, no I'm definitely not one of those guys that thinks everything after the Beatles sucks, of course not. What I'm saying though is that everythings been done and done to death. If you think the Beatles were a teeny-bopper band, you've never listened to anything then. Pickup Revolver, or Sgt Peppers, or Let it Be,, or even Imagine by John Lennon. Their chord changes and melodies were genius to a fault.
All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better.
My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death.
Vom mentioned Ratt,, ok song-wise, nothing new there. Musician-wise you can pick DeMartini out of a pack of 1000 guitar players due to his unique style and musicianship. Thats what I'm after.
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 10:27:58 GMT -5
Have you guys heard the comedian who does the Fabulous Black Beatles? OMG that's hilarious.
Tyrone McCartney, Leroy Lennon, John Jellybean Mustafa Mohammed Harrison and Bingo Starr!
With their famous #1 album called "Beat the Meatles" It has some of their famous number one hits like these.
"When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me and speaks them words of wisdom, what it be."
"I should have known better with a Bit#h like you"
"Lucy in the sky with alot of jewelery on"
"Here comes my son, he play football, here comes my son and I say..He bad"
"I can play center, I can play forward, I be six foot four"
"Hey dude, lend me a dollar"
Stern used to run this bit. Friggin hilarious!!!
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 10:31:22 GMT -5
LEROY LENNON!
LMFAO
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 10:33:48 GMT -5
Dude it's the funniest thing you'll hear. The guy is actually singing those songs. They used to play it all the time in the a.m. There's a ton of more songs he sings. I just can't remember them at the moment.
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 17, 2006 10:35:17 GMT -5
i have some lennon in my ipod.... JULIAN LENNON.....
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 10:40:25 GMT -5
Julian Lennon's album with the song "Salt water" Had some really good tunes. I can't remember the name of the album?  |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 10:43:28 GMT -5
Dude it's the funniest thing you'll hear. The guy is actually singing those songs. They used to play it all the time in the a.m. There's a ton of more songs he sings. I just can't remember them at the moment. I gotta look for that =D |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 17, 2006 10:44:21 GMT -5
ugh..jullian lennon..what a 'mo
lol
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 17, 2006 10:45:55 GMT -5
ugh..jullian lennon..what a 'mo lol "valotte" is a masterpiece...factoring in the fact that his f@ggy dad deserted him and his family...the kid did alright |
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 10:46:39 GMT -5
Dude it's the funniest thing you'll hear. The guy is actually singing those songs. They used to play it all the time in the a.m. There's a ton of more songs he sings. I just can't remember them at the moment. I gotta look for that =D I've got it along with some other funny stuff on a cassette tape. That's how old that bit is. Let me know if you want a copy of it. |
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Post by TJ on Feb 17, 2006 10:48:54 GMT -5
ugh..jullian lennon..what a 'mo lol "valotte" is a masterpiece...factoring in the fact that his f@ggy dad deserted him and his family...the kid did alright "Sitting on a pebble by the river playing guitar" I agree with you Vom. Julian got the short end of the stick. Instead Lennon gave most of his attention to Sean who like his Mother has about as much talent as a stick. Fookin Yoko is the anti-Christ. |
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Post by natemeanie on Feb 17, 2006 10:51:25 GMT -5
Aw c'mon, no I'm definitely not one of those guys that thinks everything after the Beatles sucks, of course not. What I'm saying though is that everythings been done and done to death. If you think the Beatles were a teeny-bopper band, you've never listened to anything then. Pickup Revolver, or Sgt Peppers, or Let it Be,, or even Imagine by John Lennon. Their chord changes and melodies were genius to a fault. All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better. My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death. Vom mentioned Ratt,, ok song-wise, nothing new there. Musician-wise you can pick DeMartini out of a pack of 1000 guitar players due to his unique style and musicianship. Thats what I'm after. i am definitely on the opposite end of the spectrum. so many of my favorite songs are ones that lack great production or mind blowing solos - but they have an honest energy that just grabs you or a melody that you just can't get out of your head. not that i don't admire the guys who can play their a$$ off and know every scale in the book, because i do. my jaw drops when i see a great "musician" play - mostly because i don't have the dedication or discipline to do that. but a great lick or great solo outside of the context of a great SONG doesn't stick with me the same way that a great song will even if it is performed by retards (in a technical sense). example, in 50 years people will still be writing books about the sex pistols, while DeMartini, while a great player, will be nothing more than a footnote...... |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 17, 2006 11:00:11 GMT -5
Your right Nate, but unfortunately thats a by-product of our society moreso than any barometer of musical prowess. I love the Ramones, GREAT SONGS.. Sex Pistols too..
But ironically while books will be written about them for the mainstream you don't hear guys like Vom or me or the countless other guitar players talking about tone, solos, how'd he do that lick, etc, al.. 22 years later like you do with DeMartini, Lynch, Rhoads, VH, SRV.. etc etc etc etc..
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 17, 2006 11:01:44 GMT -5
"valotte" is a masterpiece...factoring in the fact that his f@ggy dad deserted him and his family...the kid did alright "Sitting on a pebble by the river playing guitar" I agree with you Vom. Julian got the short end of the stick. Instead Lennon gave most of his attention to Sean who like his Mother has about as much talent as a stick. Fookin Yoko is the anti-Christ. what a great tune right?...my favorite line is "we're really not as clever as we seem to think we are..."...love that song and "too late for goodbyes" |
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 17, 2006 11:03:48 GMT -5
Aw c'mon, no I'm definitely not one of those guys that thinks everything after the Beatles sucks, of course not. What I'm saying though is that everythings been done and done to death. If you think the Beatles were a teeny-bopper band, you've never listened to anything then. Pickup Revolver, or Sgt Peppers, or Let it Be,, or even Imagine by John Lennon. Their chord changes and melodies were genius to a fault. All I'm saying is I'm not hearing anything groundbreaking or new from anyone especially Radiohead or Pumpkins,, so I'd just rather listen to somebody else who plays better. My personal view is, that the last uncharted territory a musician can take is through improvisation, soloing and individual style. Songwriting is overrated in the sense thats its all been done to death. Vom mentioned Ratt,, ok song-wise, nothing new there. Musician-wise you can pick DeMartini out of a pack of 1000 guitar players due to his unique style and musicianship. Thats what I'm after. i am definitely on the opposite end of the spectrum. so many of my favorite songs are ones that lack great production or mind blowing solos - but they have an honest energy that just grabs you or a melody that you just can't get out of your head. not that i don't admire the guys who can play their a$$ off and know every scale in the book, because i do. my jaw drops when i see a great "musician" play - mostly because i don't have the dedication or discipline to do that. but a great lick or great solo outside of the context of a great SONG doesn't stick with me the same way that a great song will even if it is performed by retards (in a technical sense). example, in 50 years people will still be writing books about the sex pistols, while DeMartini, while a great player, will be nothing more than a footnote...... any books written about the sex pistols will not be about their music..it'll be about sid vicious and sh!t that he did |
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