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Post by tubez on Feb 21, 2006 13:32:46 GMT -5
TJ, I do know Jason but my friend is Pete. He played with them for a few years. The general concensous about Jason is he is an A**h. Gary, Yeah I've heard he can be an a$$. However I love Saigon Kick and Supertransatlantic. That guy wrote some killer tunes. "The Lizard" is one of my favorite albums. TJ, They were a great band. Most of the shows I have seen they always sounded real good. Jason had very good compositions and was a heck of a player as well as a vocalist. From what pete told me it was all about Jason... Thats not how a band works! Are you familiar with a band called Tuff Luck from the 80's? Those guys were real good friends of mine. Dave the guitarist I am still in touch with. He relocated to LA a few years ago still trying to pursue an original project but hasn't really landed with anything solid. He is a killer player with great feel if you are into lead type of playing. |
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Post by uncletom on Feb 21, 2006 13:54:21 GMT -5
wat is da OBJECTIVE criteria or definition of 'good' music?
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 21, 2006 14:01:46 GMT -5
good music is music that can pinch a loaf on bad music
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Post by DonaldDemon on Feb 21, 2006 14:23:46 GMT -5
wat is da OBJECTIVE criteria or definition of 'good' music? Good music is the opposite of what Craig listens to ;D Just poking bud:) |
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Post by twistofcain32 on Feb 22, 2006 9:17:52 GMT -5
i disagree you need to listen too old school stuff and become more aware of your music suroundings ....yea right...lol 80s metal rules
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Post by twistofcain32 on Feb 22, 2006 9:20:15 GMT -5
just messing with you demon...lol
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 22, 2006 9:55:48 GMT -5
I know I'm going to get flamed for this.. but Dons and my joking aside.. You really owe it to yourself to learn some Classical. I know morecowbell said he has..
Its actually a real eye-opener. I just finished 3 more Bach pieces and an Albeniz Spanish Piano piece and its sick and frightening how much music those guys shoved into a 4 minute piece. It really puts things in perspective when were talking about hair metal and radiohead crap,, which sorry, is really crap compared to this stuff. I know, I know.. I'm a pretentious music snob,, but I'm telling you,, get a few of these harder piece under your fingers and you'll have whole new perspetive on "MUSIC". Its really opened my eyes.
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Post by uncletom on Feb 22, 2006 10:22:52 GMT -5
I know I'm going to get flamed for this.. but Dons and my joking aside.. You really owe it to yourself to learn some Classical. I know morecowbell said he has.. Its actually a real eye-opener. I just finished 3 more Bach pieces and an Albeniz Spanish Piano piece and its sick and frightening how much music those guys shoved into a 4 minute piece. It really puts things in perspective when were talking about hair metal and radiohead crap,, which sorry, is really crap compared to this stuff. I know, I know.. I'm a pretentious music snob,, but I'm telling you,, get a few of these harder piece under your fingers and you'll have whole new perspetive on "MUSIC". Its really opened my eyes. I studied under a gentleman that was taking master classes with Segovia at the time (Parkening was in his class with another guy..) his name was 'Small' though I forget his first name (this was in early 80's)...I took about five classes (at his apartment) when he booted me for not keeping my right hand fingernails a certain length and polished...I played exercizes by Sor and Villa-Lobos including the Romantic, Baroque, Classical and Spanish composers...I had a Ramirez 1A classical and recorded a few pieces during this period. I still play left hand single note vibrato as a classical player and see the fretboard as a classical player...but, in the end, I's jus a stupid ol' man...  |
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Post by TJ on Feb 22, 2006 10:24:11 GMT -5
I don't think you'll get flamed for that. It's a given in my book. Classical guitarists are amazing! I went to see "Virginia Luque" She was Andres Segovia's understudy and a graduate of Julliard. I was floored after watching her performance. Just the technique she has is devastating. Check out Tuck Andress www.tuckandpatti.com/ or Ben Lacy www.benlacy.com/ These guys will open up your mind to a different type of guitar playing. Mind boggling how they play. Another guy to check out and who I've seen live several times and has always just blown me away is Monte Montgomery www.montemontgomery.com/ All these players will make you say "WOW" Check em out! |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 22, 2006 10:48:52 GMT -5
The guy I'm studying with now Dr. Stephen Robinson was a Segovia student too. Hes amazing. I also have problems with my nails from playing rock stuff, but for the most part my nails are useable. Its a constant battle of keeping them long enough for Classical and short enough to Rawk out with on the weekends.. hee hee.
TJ, Tuck Andress is a bad mofo.. I ha his instrutional video and learned all the walking bass/chord-melody stuff. I took jazz composition when I was much younger and between what I learned from that and the Tuck Andress approach I can open any jazz fake book and do any standard on solo guitar with some prep time.. I only had to read charts for one gig though, but its a nice skill to have.
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Post by TJ on Feb 22, 2006 10:59:23 GMT -5
Tuck's instructional video is amazing. The opening cut of Michael Jackson's "Man in the mirror" will just knock your socks off.
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Feb 22, 2006 11:06:37 GMT -5
I have a great arrangement of Giant Steps I came up with years ago. I had planned on recording that with the Splawn for a clean channel demo.. I'll try to do that ASAP. Its using the Tuck appraoch to walking bass but certainly not as intricate as anything hes doing.
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Post by TJ on Feb 22, 2006 11:11:22 GMT -5
I have a great arrangement of Giant Steps I came up with years ago. I had planned on recording that with the Splawn for a clean channel demo.. I'll try to do that ASAP. Its using the Tuck appraoch to walking bass but certainly not as intricate as anything hes doing. When I do acoustic gigs I incorporate alot of his techniques like walking bass lines, etc. I do a cool version of "Tears for fears, Everybody wants to rule the world" Do it in drop D and walk the lines throughout the chord changes for the melody. I do the same for other songs like "Baker Street" and "Hysteria" although both those tunes I use DADGAD tuning. |
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Post by shreder75 on Feb 22, 2006 11:18:20 GMT -5
I agree with what you said Craig...compared to classical, everything else is really just a joke by comparison...lol...
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Post by DonaldDemon on Feb 22, 2006 11:20:39 GMT -5
I know I'm going to get flamed for this.. but Dons and my joking aside.. You really owe it to yourself to learn some Classical. I know morecowbell said he has.. Its actually a real eye-opener. I just finished 3 more Bach pieces and an Albeniz Spanish Piano piece and its sick and frightening how much music those guys shoved into a 4 minute piece. It really puts things in perspective when were talking about hair metal and radiohead crap,, which sorry, is really crap compared to this stuff. I know, I know.. I'm a pretentious music snob,, but I'm telling you,, get a few of these harder piece under your fingers and you'll have whole new perspetive on "MUSIC". Its really opened my eyes. Well again, that's a matter of opinion Craig. You might think its crap but there are many who think classical is crap, mostly non-musicians under 40. You can't judge music by your own standards. That's all great but to be honest I don't really care right now. I play in a rock band not an orchestra. I used to be concerned with having to learn all I could but as I grew up I don't have the time and realize that its just not necessary. I'm not out to impress other musicians anymore. I'm going back to instinct and enjoying playing with heart and not mind. Maybe when I'm older and not in bands I will have the desire, but for now I like writing songs that tell my story. |
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