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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 15:42:59 GMT -5
I love the sound of the Nitro from the clips...it seems to have a really great sound/feel I would love to have in an amp.....Unfortunately, the splawn fx loop is a deal breaker for me. When will scott put a proper tube buffered fx loop in his amps?
I would love to get the nitro....but I can't interface it with the rest of my gear:(
Yes all gear leaves a mark on the tone excuse is probably coming...but you can get around what the fx units add color wise to the dry sound easily with the right gear....but the loop itself should not add to the sound as well. Scott, please but a good fx loop in your amps.
Man I want a Nitro
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Post by VomHalen on Nov 30, 2007 15:48:02 GMT -5
i've played a tube buffered FX loop...it's the dumbest thing on the planet. next to TJ.
i'll take scott's design any day...infact i told mark cameron that that's how i want the loop in my mod (that i'll never get) ;D
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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 15:49:09 GMT -5
i've played a tube buffered FX loop...it's the dumbest thing on the planet. next to TJ. i'll take scott's design any day...infact i told mark cameron that that's how i want the loop in my mod (that i'll never get) ;D Then you didn't play a good one....try an od100 fx loop...sounds great. Dumb...it's a great idea man. Geez, I know we love scott's amps here but damn lol, the loop could be better
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Post by VomHalen on Nov 30, 2007 15:51:44 GMT -5
i've played a tube buffered FX loop...it's the dumbest thing on the planet. next to TJ. i'll take scott's design any day...infact i told mark cameron that that's how i want the loop in my mod (that i'll never get) ;D Then you didn't play a good one....try an od100 fx loop...sounds great. that very well could be the case... i run my loop 24 /7...infact...the only time i play without is when i'm jamming with tuskerkev. love it, scott don't change a thing
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Post by splatter on Nov 30, 2007 15:54:54 GMT -5
First off have you ever played a splawn and tried the fx loop or are you just assuming that the fx loop sux . I play a Q R and i don't have a problem with the loop .I use it everytime I play . Scott makes some of the best sounding amps around and if you can't deal with the fx loop maybe you just need to stick to line 6 . Or better yet design your own line of amps and show Scott how its done .
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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 15:54:58 GMT -5
Then you didn't play a good one....try an od100 fx loop...sounds great. that very well could be the case... i run my loop 24 /7...infact...the only time i play without is when i'm jamming with tuskerkev. love it, scott don't change a thing That's just retarded....why wouldn't you want something better? A solid state loop is better than a tube one....by gosh that's just not rawk(jk;) Seriously, you'd be seriously kidding yourself thinking I was the first to think this..... A good loop should not effect the tone that dramatically...I think scott's designs deserve a better loop...from where I stand, they have pretty much the perfect high gain sound.
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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 15:59:11 GMT -5
First off have you ever played a splawn and tried the fx loop or are you just assuming that the fx loop sux . I play a Q R and i don't have a problem with the loop .I use it everytime I play . Scott makes some of the best sounding amps around and if you can't deal with the fx loop maybe you just need to stick to line 6 . Or better yet design your own line of amps and show Scott how its done . Man, no need to get nasty:( The amps are great, but the loop could be better..... Dang, don't be a zealot...guys are attacking me for wishing the splawn had a tube fx loop(I guess John Suhr and Bruce Egnater are just hacks right)....goin' off the deep end:( Line6...you don't know who the heck you're talkin' to buddy:
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Post by VomHalen on Nov 30, 2007 16:00:30 GMT -5
that very well could be the case... i run my loop 24 /7...infact...the only time i play without is when i'm jamming with tuskerkev. love it, scott don't change a thing That's just retarded....why wouldn't you want something better? A solid state loop is better than a tube one....by gosh that's just not rawk(jk;) Seriously, you'd be seriously kidding yourself thinking I was the first to think this..... A good loop should not effect the tone that dramatically...I think scott's designs deserve a better loop...from where I stand, they have pretty much the perfect high gain sound. i understand what you're saying. tube isn't always better though...not for my needs. i don't notice ANYTHING wrong with that loop. if it ain't broke don't fix it.... when you're playing in a room full of people the last thing you're thinking about is the loop
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Post by VomHalen on Nov 30, 2007 16:03:08 GMT -5
yeah splatt flew off the handle a little bit there ;D
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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 16:06:11 GMT -5
That's just retarded....why wouldn't you want something better? A solid state loop is better than a tube one....by gosh that's just not rawk(jk;) Seriously, you'd be seriously kidding yourself thinking I was the first to think this..... A good loop should not effect the tone that dramatically...I think scott's designs deserve a better loop...from where I stand, they have pretty much the perfect high gain sound. i understand what you're saying. tube isn't always better though...not for my needs. i don't notice ANYTHING wrong with that loop. if it ain't broke don't fix it.... when you're playing in a room full of people the last thing you're thinking about is the loop I agree tube isn't always better...but a GOOD tube loop is %100 better, and I know Scott would do one right. If it screws with the tone it's not broke? I'm more concerned with what I think about the tone than people in the room. Folks this is too much. I've heard of supporting a builder, but don't go crazy. I said I love the tone of Splawns amps, I do(I think some of the best tone to be had)....but geez one critique and you guys go right for the throat lol....check yourself....I wasn't being harsh/rude or whatever.
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Post by john01w on Nov 30, 2007 16:07:26 GMT -5
yeah splatt flew off the handle a little bit there ;D Hehe...maybe just a little . Man, I wasn't trying to be rude ;D
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Post by VomHalen on Nov 30, 2007 16:38:17 GMT -5
yeah splatt flew off the handle a little bit there ;D Hehe...maybe just a little . Man, I wasn't trying to be rude ;D yeah i know you weren't...don't worry about it ;D
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Post by TuskerKevin on Nov 30, 2007 17:23:00 GMT -5
Nice Eventide!
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Post by pauldem on Nov 30, 2007 18:07:25 GMT -5
I'd have gone for nice rack, but I don't think you should say that to guys . Its a cool setup man, but do you need all that stuff to get your sound. I know people love there rigs, but I'm pretty sure dudes like Kotzen and Eklundh plug straight in and sound pretty sweet. I tried the rack route and am back to pedals again, but then I'm a bozo.
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Post by Silverwulf on Nov 30, 2007 18:24:55 GMT -5
I'm a Splawn fan and user and think the loop sucks tone, despite if Shredder thinks I'm crazy or maybe DC thinks it's a figment of my imagination... ;D If I had it my way, I'd have a better sounding and/or more transparent loop in the amps. Would it stop me from buying or using the amp? No.
While it does alter your tone IMO, it's not a terrible loop than you can't nudge a knob or two in another direction and get virtually the same tone as you had before. In a live, full band setting...you're not going to notice the difference at all. Play in a bigger venue and the sound man will butcher your tone worse turning knobs behind the board more than that loop ever will. When you go to record, you're likely not going to have that garbage in the loop anyway...so where's the problem?
Do I think it could be a better loop? Yes. Is it pretty much irrelevant in the grand scheme of things for practical purposes? Yes, I do believe so.
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