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Post by levithequickrodguy on Jun 24, 2019 22:34:30 GMT -5
Speakers, cabs, pickups, guitars, pedals... I’m sure there’s been posts like this in the past, but as slow as it is around here why not give everyone an excuse to talk about their gear? As you all know I’m pretty young to the Splawn scene and I’m still enjoying tinkering with different set ups to see how the Splawn reacts. I’m curious to hear what you all enjoy the most with your QR.
I have a Marshall 4x12 with G12H-30 greenbacks in it that is quite bright. I find myself cranking the bass to nearly full and the mid and presence to 9:00 or less. And I always keep my treble on 0. This has gave me a very usable tone, just seems odd to have to set the eq to such extremes. On the other hand I’ve got a Splawn 2x12 with Creamback M65 speakers in it that has the exact opposite problem. Same guitar. But I have to almost turn the bass off and crank the mids and presence to get a sound that I don’t consider too dark. And even then it’s still darker than I’d prefer. In practice last Saturday night the creambacks were almost unusable for classic rock rhythm tones. My leads sounded killer, but everything was very dark. I’ve also used Smallblocks in both 4x12 and 2x12 and found them to be too dark for my taste.
Just looking for some ideas of a more balanced speaker and some opinions that you guys have formed from your years of playing Splawn.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jun 25, 2019 14:33:19 GMT -5
My main guitar is a 2012 LP Standard loaded with Fokin pickups. A Hot Breeze bridge and a Rocket Queen neck. At home I play through a Port City OS 2x12 and live I use a Marshall 1936 both loaded with one Small Block and one G12t-75. The settings on the amp in the pic are not what I currently use. I typically have the b/m/t something like 1:00/11:00/1:00 with the presence somewhere around 1:30-ish. I hit the front of the amp with the Friedman Buxom Boost....it’s an AMAZING boost pedal. Modulation and reverb through the loop and it’s all controlled via midi with the Musicomlab MK III switcher. Here’s he guitar with the Fokin’s installed And my Kramer with the same pickups
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Post by splawndude on Jun 26, 2019 21:27:22 GMT -5
I'm a treble on '0' guy.
Usually Gear 2/OD2
I don't mess with my settings too much. Pres around 11 oclock, Bass on 10 oclock, Mids on 1 oclock, Gain 2 oclock.
C standard tuning. 212 Splawn cab w Small Blocks. Bad Monkey OD. That's it right now. I have a volume box in the loop and it is set to like 9/10. I use a Schecter C1+ mostly and it has a Duncan Custom Custom Alnico 2 bridge. Jazz 3s. .11s. Mostly JJs but like NOS 5751 in PI. Otherwise my pedalboard (effects) run into my Rectoverb Solo 50 head.
Interesting observation the other night. Leaving the OD channel Treble on "0" renders the Clean channel as pretty lifeless. I always wondered why the clean channel was so drab. I assumed it was because cleans were not the purpose for this amp. So I'm playing on the clean channel and I start messing with all the knobs starting from left to right. Basically looking for any 'channel bleed'. Low and behold, I crank on the Treble on the OD channel and the Clean Channel comes to life.
True story.
So glad I discovered that.
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Post by splawndude on Jun 26, 2019 21:35:57 GMT -5
PS: Treble on "0" doesn't mean I don't like treble or I like tons of bass. My amp has way more bass than I need so setting the treble on 0 was VERY counter intuitive to me. But once I discovered it (someone told me about it) I found the amp to really add this kick or special sauce. It is hard to describe.
If you set everything to noon and or dial in your favorite tone then slowly dial the treble down to "0" as you approach 10 oclock, then 9 oclock you can hear the treble start to completely disappear. Then, when you hit .5 or 0 it kind of comes back and all the other frequencies pop too.
It has to do with the way the tone stack is designed and laid out and Splawn amps are not the only amps people do this with. People are doing it with other amps too so it just must come down to the amp, the builder and you.
Levi - have you tried an EQ pedal in your effects loop? Lots of fun doing that.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jun 27, 2019 4:28:43 GMT -5
I'm a treble on '0' guy. Usually Gear 2/OD2 I don't mess with my settings too much. Pres around 11 oclock, Bass on 10 oclock, Mids on 1 oclock, Gain 2 oclock. C standard tuning. 212 Splawn cab w Small Blocks. Bad Monkey OD. That's it right now. I have a volume box in the loop and it is set to like 9/10. I use a Schecter C1+ mostly and it has a Duncan Custom Custom Alnico 2 bridge. Jazz 3s. .11s. Mostly JJs but like NOS 5751 in PI. Otherwise my pedalboard (effects) run into my Rectoverb Solo 50 head. Interesting observation the other night. Leaving the OD channel Treble on "0" renders the Clean channel as pretty lifeless. I always wondered why the clean channel was so drab. I assumed it was because cleans were not the purpose for this amp. So I'm playing on the clean channel and I start messing with all the knobs starting from left to right. Basically looking for any 'channel bleed'. Low and behold, I crank on the Treble on the OD channel and the Clean Channel comes to life. True story. So glad I discovered that. Strange. On my QR the only tone control that is universal is the presence knob.
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Post by splawndude on Jun 27, 2019 11:15:19 GMT -5
Sorry. Didn't mean to allude that it was universal. The treble knob on the clean channel still works as normal. But if I turn the treble up on the OD channel from say 8 oclock ("0") to 11 oclock there is a noticeable difference (and a better one) to the clean channel tone.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jun 27, 2019 11:40:48 GMT -5
Must be a different design in our amps. Unless I’m mistaken, in mine the tone controls per channel (besides the presence) are 100% independent of one another.
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Post by splawndude on Jun 27, 2019 17:09:41 GMT -5
Try it.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jun 27, 2019 17:35:21 GMT -5
I will this weekend. My rig isn’t set up right now. I had a gig last weekend and I’ve been lazy! Lol
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Post by gtrjunior on Jun 30, 2019 19:22:46 GMT -5
I set up my rig this afternoon and played with the tone controls on both channels. The clean channel tone stack is completely separate from the OD tone stack. None of the controls affect the tone of the other channel. With the only exception being the presence control being a global control for both channels.
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Post by levithequickrodguy on Jun 30, 2019 20:45:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies fellas, I don’t know what’s wrong with me. I loved the way the QR was sounding through H magnet Greenbacks, but I found when I really get to pushing the volume they have a breakup to them that is unpleasant for me. And the Creambacks in my 2x12 still sound dark as all get out. I feel like I’m losing my mind trying to get this thing figured out.
I need to go from pushed Marshall sounds (we play a couple Greta Van Fleet tunes) to overdriven 800 sounds (Dokken, Dio, Bon Jovi.) and I’m just having a real hard time figuring it out with this head.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jul 1, 2019 4:32:19 GMT -5
Ive been using the Friedman buxom boost with the amp. I can set the gain to about 1:00-2:00 for a less gainy tone, then with the boost I go right to 80’s metal territory. Best addition to the amp yet.
I’m a little surprised that you feel the amp is dark. Most find the amp to be bright! Try setting your presence to 3:00. The best advise I was given with this amp (from Splawndude) is that you have to set the controls with your ears and not your eyes. This amp is different than a typical Marshall. I struggled with the amp at first too. But trust me...all of those tones are in there.
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Post by levithequickrodguy on Jul 1, 2019 5:55:30 GMT -5
Well it’s crazy, with my 4x12 of greenbacks it is pretty bright. But the 2x12 with creambacks is quite dark. Dark enough it was disappearing in the mix and getting outshined by a JCM 900. My amp is a 50 watt so I usually run full power and use my loop level as a master volume. In the loop I just have a Delay, a chorus, and a reverb. In front of the amp I have Keeley Red Dirt that I rarely if ever use. And mainly my PRS with Tremonti pups. (Which are a ceramic and very hot.) maybe I need to try a lower output pup?
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Post by gtrjunior on Jul 1, 2019 6:57:40 GMT -5
Idk...my pickups are hot as f*ck and I cut through the mix. Maybe play with the presence as I suggested and/or run a small eq pedal in the loop?
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Post by gtrjunior on Jul 1, 2019 6:58:14 GMT -5
Can you record a short iPhone clip so we can hear what’s going on?
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