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Post by windsen on Aug 28, 2008 18:23:49 GMT -5
hey guys, i have a question. what's the best way to power my pedals on my board? right now i'm using a standard boss AC adapter, connected to a daisy chain, to feed by tuner, od-9, tone press, delay and my a/b/y (just for the LED). is this sufficient or is there a better way? thanks.
i thought i should clarify: i looked up all the power consumptions for my pedals:
korg tuner - 30mA
maxon od-9 - 6mA
barber tone press - 10 mA
loop-master a/b/y - neglible since it's just for the LED.
mxr carbon copy - 26 mA
total ~ 72mA
so using the 200mA boss AC adapter with daisy chain is fine for powering all these? the korg pedal recommend a 600mA or greater power supply, but i'm guessing that's b/c it can power other pedals. i just wanted to make sure. thanks.
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Post by scoobrock on Aug 28, 2008 18:55:02 GMT -5
Scoob that video is HILARIOUS. Who at Boss is in charge that lets THAT guy do videos.. LMAO. I have no words. I know, makes me want to sell mine to some 13 yr old n00b...He's really bad. One of the worst vibrato's this side of CC. And what's with the faces? I really do use one though...and it sounds better than that. I don't use the fakey dist. at all. That probably helps. Oh, and I have a VHT valvulator too...it's all Craig says it is. I called it the vawhinalator earlier...so I wanted to clarify. It rocks. |
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Post by scoobrock on Aug 28, 2008 19:00:17 GMT -5
Oh, and I saw Neil and his band Zaza back in '91 at Spanky's East in Cleveland - they were the best band around at that time. The guy would just smile and shred through 80's hair metal the entire time, it was effortless.
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Post by LooseCannon on Aug 28, 2008 20:38:08 GMT -5
hey guys, i have a question. what's the best way to power my pedals on my board? right now i'm using a standard boss AC adapter, connected to a daisy chain, to feed by tuner, od-9, tone press, delay and my a/b/y (just for the LED). is this sufficient or is there a better way? thanks. i thought i should clarify: i looked up all the power consumptions for my pedals: korg tuner - 30mA maxon od-9 - 6mA barber tone press - 10 mA loop-master a/b/y - neglible since it's just for the LED. mxr carbon copy - 26 mA total ~ 72mA so using the 200mA boss AC adapter with daisy chain is fine for powering all these? the korg pedal recommend a 600mA or greater power supply, but i'm guessing that's b/c it can power other pedals. i just wanted to make sure. thanks. I bought a quality 2500ma adapter for around 20$, you could get the visual spot 1 spot it's around 1500-2000ma I think. I woulden't spend money on one of those Pedal Power adapters though, overpriced and does the same thing. BTW winds did you try the Korg DT10 as well? How does the pitch black compare to other tuner pedals? |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Aug 29, 2008 9:35:40 GMT -5
How would you guys compare the PB to the DT10? Both are great tuners and very accurate. The PB is VERY compact and is true bypass. The DT-10 is bigger and not true bypass but has a very good buffer. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Aug 29, 2008 9:42:21 GMT -5
hey guys, i have a question. what's the best way to power my pedals on my board? right now i'm using a standard boss AC adapter, connected to a daisy chain, to feed by tuner, od-9, tone press, delay and my a/b/y (just for the LED). is this sufficient or is there a better way? thanks. i thought i should clarify: i looked up all the power consumptions for my pedals: korg tuner - 30mA maxon od-9 - 6mA barber tone press - 10 mA loop-master a/b/y - neglible since it's just for the LED. mxr carbon copy - 26 mA total ~ 72mA so using the 200mA boss AC adapter with daisy chain is fine for powering all these? the korg pedal recommend a 600mA or greater power supply, but i'm guessing that's b/c it can power other pedals. i just wanted to make sure. thanks. I bought a quality 2500ma adapter for around 20$, you could get the visual spot 1 spot it's around 1500-2000ma I think. I woulden't spend money on one of those Pedal Power adapters though, overpriced and does the same thing. BTW winds did you try the Korg DT10 as well? How does the pitch black compare to other tuner pedals? Yeah, like Loosecannon said, you should be fine with doing what you are doing or maybe using a 1Spot. I use the Pedal Power 2+ because of how many pedals I use and it works perfectly. If you run a lot of pedals the PP2+ is good because each outlet is isolated rather than being a dasiy chan of power but for your puposes you should be fine. |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Aug 29, 2008 16:05:24 GMT -5
[cough] VHT Valvulator.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Aug 29, 2008 16:28:39 GMT -5
I'm convinced you own stock in VHT. |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Aug 29, 2008 16:34:11 GMT -5
...and I'm convinced that nobody here values my opinion anymore..  I can't believe you guys would entertain using a Pedal Power piece of poop childs toy over a real line regulator, tube buffer. [sigh] |
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Post by LooseCannon on Aug 29, 2008 17:31:43 GMT -5
Doesn't the Valvulator cost like 300$? I wouldn't invest that for the 1 pedal i'm using  |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Aug 30, 2008 11:45:14 GMT -5
...and I'm convinced that nobody here values my opinion anymore.. I can't believe you guys would entertain using a Pedal Power piece of poop childs toy over a real line regulator, tube buffer. [sigh] The Pedal Power is totally different though, it's not a line regulator or buffer. It just provides clean power so you don't run into hum and noise issues. It's well worth the $170 over a $300 buffer that could be built for $20. Each outlet has it's own isolated transformer in a sense so it's like having 8 quality power supplies in one box. |
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Post by jchan on Aug 30, 2008 14:10:49 GMT -5
I don't doubt Dons word guys but seriously he is in the minority of pro players are play without a line-level regulator/tube buffer. I was so frustrated on how my cool pedals like a phase 90 or wah would kill my tone,, even just two pedals! even with true bypass and the best cables money can buy.. until I found the VHT Valvulator. Growing up in Cleveland there was a local guy there named Neil Zaza who is amazing and I was reading on his website about it and thats when I bought one.. heres his pedalboard and what he says: www.neilzaza.com/gear/gear.html"I wouldn’t run a pedalboard without a Valvulator. What this unit actually does is brings your guitar down from instrument to line level so that it can run through your pedals at optimum value. What this does is enables you to run through multiple pedals and not lose any signal or high-end tone. It also supplies an active splitter on board for multiple amps if need be as well as a power supply. If you could hear the difference between running your signal through a Valvulator or not, you would be racing up to your local music store to order one." Whether ot not you need a buffer is ALWAYS in relation to your personal set up. I don't claim to be an expert but I figured if I was going to run a lot of pedals I would do a lot of research on the subject, so I did. Again, it also boils down to which pedals you choose to use and knowing which ones have good buffers or not. Craig, you talk about hating the tone suckage out of just two pedals but both of those pedals, the Phase 90 and wah, are well known culprits of having terrible buffers and being tone suckers. That's why a lot people mod them or put them in a TB loop. In fact, in that article link it says he had both his Phase 90 and wah modded for TB. I think the Valvulator is a great tool and if I hadn't already tried a decent line level buffer (Doobtone Microbuffer 2) then I would certainly add one to my rig. If I was running pedals with bad buffers or a lot of true bypass pedals I would certainly use one. Keep in mind, there are a lot of pro's who DON'T use them and have no issues. For instance, Trower has one of the most amazing tones I have ever heard live with a Strat and a Marshall and here's his set up: aycu34.webshots.com/image/13353/2002112576881881282_rs.jpgActually, he has a Boss Tuner in the circuit which is known to be a decent buffer. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Aug 30, 2008 16:52:58 GMT -5
Whether ot not you need a buffer is ALWAYS in relation to your personal set up. I don't claim to be an expert but I figured if I was going to run a lot of pedals I would do a lot of research on the subject, so I did. Again, it also boils down to which pedals you choose to use and knowing which ones have good buffers or not. Craig, you talk about hating the tone suckage out of just two pedals but both of those pedals, the Phase 90 and wah, are well known culprits of having terrible buffers and being tone suckers. That's why a lot people mod them or put them in a TB loop. In fact, in that article link it says he had both his Phase 90 and wah modded for TB. I think the Valvulator is a great tool and if I hadn't already tried a decent line level buffer (Doobtone Microbuffer 2) then I would certainly add one to my rig. If I was running pedals with bad buffers or a lot of true bypass pedals I would certainly use one. Keep in mind, there are a lot of pro's who DON'T use them and have no issues. For instance, Trower has one of the most amazing tones I have ever heard live with a Strat and a Marshall and here's his set up: aycu34.webshots.com/image/13353/2002112576881881282_rs.jpgActually, he has a Boss Tuner in the circuit which is known to be a decent buffer. That's what I've been preaching all along!  |
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Post by Pageplayer on Aug 31, 2008 20:34:11 GMT -5
Hey Dudes! Haven't been around here much lately.. Been pretty busy with the cover band, building boards and my other job..  Wanted to thank Pauldem for giving my boards props here on the forum.. Thanks Paul! I'm kinda celebrating and having a sale because it been confirmed... My good friend Dennis from ProTone Pedals and I will be teaming up and getting a booth for the 2009 NAMM event in L.A.! Rock on Splawn Brothers! Chuck www.rocksolidboards.comwww.myspace.com/rocksolidboardsOh.. Here's a pic of my board...  I've sinced swapped out the wah with a Fulltone unit. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 1, 2008 9:16:03 GMT -5
Hey Dudes! Haven't been around here much lately.. Been pretty busy with the cover band, building boards and my other job.. Wanted to thank Pauldem for giving my boards props here on the forum.. Thanks Paul! I'm kinda celebrating and having a sale because it been confirmed... My good friend Dennis from ProTone Pedals and I will be teaming up and getting a booth for the 2009 NAMM event in L.A.! Rock on Splawn Brothers! Chuck www.rocksolidboards.comwww.myspace.com/rocksolidboardsOh.. Here's a pic of my board... I've sinced swapped out the wah with a Fulltone unit. Cool man! Had I known you built the boards I would have ordered one of yours instead of the pedaltrain! Your boards look similar to the NYC Boards, which I had before the Pedaltrain. They are a great layout but weren't as well built as I had hoped. I do miss having the second tier though. I still haven't got used to stepping over certain pedals to hit the switch just right. |
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I can't believe you guys would entertain using a Pedal Power piece of poop childs toy over a real line regulator, tube buffer. [sigh]
