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Post by Axemane on Oct 29, 2007 8:08:53 GMT -5
+1 on the Michael Romeo.
Awesome player.
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Post by Axemane on Oct 29, 2007 8:09:55 GMT -5
No one has mentioned the media darlings"Dragon Force" yet.Wonder why?  |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Oct 29, 2007 8:15:53 GMT -5
See....thats the whole problem, there arent guitar gods or "hero's" anymore! A guitar hero is larger than life, and in a larger than life band, not just an incredible player. Govan is great, but a hero? I think not. Maybe we are all too old and jaded....perhaps this is a question better posed to the youth of today? Just my opinion. I completely agree here. Guys like Guthrie Govan and Michael Romeo are no doubt freaking amazing players but the music (IMO) just doesn't add up to "guitar god" status for me. It's too set up for technical shred and not very musical and accessible (again IMO). As for newer metal I really dig Opeth and Mastadon. Like grtwun said, good senses of melody and unpredictable songwriting. They are not outstanding guitarists by any means but that is just not important to me. I'll take great songwriting anyday over technical prowess. |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 29, 2007 8:33:11 GMT -5
So, what would be a good "gateway" CD from either Opeth or Mastadon?
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Post by pauldem on Oct 29, 2007 8:35:27 GMT -5
I've never been so bored at a gig as when I went to see Dragonforce  . Herman Li is obviously amazing, but Totman is awful and it was like one long song..painful. Now Mastodon are something else, their arrangements are superb and the songwriting gets better with every album. Colony of Birchmen is excellent and the last track off Blood mountain is like a weird modern Little wing, some amazing rhythm playing. Has anyone here heard of Sikth? The vocals are on occasion beautiful but the two guitarists are pretty stunning. |
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Post by pauldem on Oct 29, 2007 8:38:50 GMT -5
So, what would be a good "gateway" CD from either Opeth or Mastadon? For Mastodon I'd maybe start with Leviathan for the riffs and then Blood Mountain for the writing, playing and arranging. They have a really nice vintage sound to them, but still sound contemporary. |
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 29, 2007 8:38:51 GMT -5
the two dudes in Soil Work are EXCELLENT guitar players...melody, riffs, rippin' leads....good stuff...
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Post by pauldem on Oct 29, 2007 8:48:44 GMT -5
Hey, that's about all I know. My repertoire of "new" metal includes those listed, LOG - which I was not all that impressed, System of a Down - again not all that impressed. I sat through Headbangers Ball not long ago. I've never seen a bigger collection of totally contrived crap in all my life. It's simply not possible to be that angry and hateful at only 20 years of age. Totally overdone - all of it, and very little musicianship. Depressing really. I would rather listen to my wife's Pop Country. Maybe it HAS all been done like DC keeps saying. These days I either listen to my old man 80s music, or I listen to 60s/70s AM pop. I guess I like that "feel good" music. I did mean that as a compliment that you still know some new shredders, while I cough up Danny Gatton. that might send Paul into some strange chicken pickin' alternate universe...he's not a metal player, just to warn you Paul. But he's crazy amazing. I've seen a video of Danny playing slide with a beer bottle whilst drinking from it, then playing it through a towel to dry it  . Was great stuff. Another great player who passed on early. I'm listening to Sonny Landerth at the moment. I dont play slide as it hates me, but I like his phrasing a whole bunch. I'll have to ask TJ who he gets his chicken pickin' skills from. I know some Johnny Hiland and John 5 but Lowery's distorted tone pretty ropey. I've been slowly adding country licks into my stuff since Pride and glory and MLF's Cactus Cruz. |
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 29, 2007 9:20:06 GMT -5
there are no real guitar heros anymore...definitely NOONE new
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 29, 2007 9:22:07 GMT -5
there are no real guitar heros anymore...definitely NOONE new depends on the definition of new there are some sick guitar players out there...as I said, soilwork, pagan's mind, etc, etc.....they're just not in popular cookie monster vocal super down tuned bands.... |
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 29, 2007 9:26:33 GMT -5
there are no real guitar heros anymore...definitely NOONE new depends on the definition of new there are some sick guitar players out there...as I said, soilwork, pagan's mind, etc, etc.....they're just not in popular cookie monster vocal super down tuned bands.... a guitar hero needs to be on magazine covers...on MTV...playing arenas in a famous band... |
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Post by pauldem on Oct 29, 2007 9:28:34 GMT -5
You mean like Zakk Wylde?
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 29, 2007 9:31:27 GMT -5
You mean like Zakk Wylde? yeah..in fact...early zakk was probably the last great guitar hero |
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 29, 2007 9:32:25 GMT -5
depends on the definition of new there are some sick guitar players out there...as I said, soilwork, pagan's mind, etc, etc.....they're just not in popular cookie monster vocal super down tuned bands.... a guitar hero needs to be on magazine covers...on MTV...playing arenas in a famous band... meh, that's a load of horsesh!t..commercial success does NOT, nor ever will = guitar hero status in my book... take kirk hammet for instance..in the biggest metal band of all time...guy is goddamn horrible..his leads are awful and live, he just cashes it in...is he a guitar hero? no friggin way, I don't care how many platinum records metallica's put out for every guy on the cover of a modern rock guitar magazine there's a dozen guys in lesser known bands who are doing it better... |
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 29, 2007 9:33:13 GMT -5
You mean like Zakk Wylde? yeah..in fact...early zakk was probably the last great guitar hero I'd say the last great guitar hero was Dimebag..hands down..but I do dig zakk, even if I think BLS sucks donkey taint |
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. Herman Li is obviously amazing, but Totman is awful and it was like one long song..painful.
. Was great stuff. Another great player who passed on early. 
