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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 11:38:23 GMT -5
you know how you 'bend' notes is much more important than how many notes you can play per nanosecond...
any thoughts?
I practice bending notes and vibrato as much as I can...
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Post by TJ on Jan 13, 2006 11:48:05 GMT -5
I agree Jimbax. Vibrato is one of the most important (and often overlooked) aspects of playing.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Jan 13, 2006 12:03:09 GMT -5
+1 jimbax, there are two ways to kill a solo in my opinion. One is to throw some wrong notes in and Two is to bend too far/too little, esentiall yplaying the wrong note again. I manage to do both of those fine at shows quite often:)
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Post by shreder75 on Jan 13, 2006 12:04:52 GMT -5
less is less, more is more! remember that =)
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Post by DonaldDemon on Jan 13, 2006 12:08:11 GMT -5
less is less, more is more! remember that =) Do you still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy?  |
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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 12:09:31 GMT -5
man, when I haven't been playin my electric for a while I reach over and bend up a string and it sounds like I'm strangling a cat...after a few minutes my hands catch up to my little brain and I'm able to smooth it out but it takes some feel and practice...
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Post by shreder75 on Jan 13, 2006 12:21:51 GMT -5
less is less, more is more! remember that =) Do you still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy? no, I don't =) wanna know what I beleive in? I beleive what makes a good guitar player is technique, style, thoughtfullness and creativity.... I beleive that a good guitar player can play a fast passage AND also be able to do soulfull bends... I beleive a good guitar player does NOT have haphazard vibrato like Kirk Hammet.... I beleive that just cause someone can play fast or sweep pick, it doesn' tmake them a 'wanking idiot' as long as they know how to incoporate it tastefully.... I'm gettin' a little bit pissed at all the 'sweep picking is evil!' or 'shredding is evil!' crap that's been spouted off around here (not directing this at you, my fellow jersian..lol..this is just a general rant)... why is it when a violin player plays a thousand notes per second, they're a musical genius, while a guitar player does a couple of sweeps and they're just another 'wanker'? I'm trying to wrap my brain around this, but I just can't seem to do so.... case in point..the kotzen video..it's an instructional video...what do all instructional videos open up with? a showcase of what the player CAN do, technically....not what they will ALWAYS do in EVERY song.... if I got a video and I saw some dude during the opening showcase doing a bend or two, or a double stop lick or a slow blues triad, I'd go back to where I bought it from and demand my money back...plain and simple...I wanna see something I can't do....something I didn't think of doing....something to broaden my horizons.... by my clips and my screenname, people probably think that's all I do....'oh, he just plays as fast as he can'...that's about 10% of what I actually do when I play my guitar.... anyway, speed, sweeping, bends, vibrato..they're all techniques...last time I checked, the more of them you can meld together the better you are most likely to be...never knew that being able to do one negated the others... hey, that's just me though =D |
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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 12:22:48 GMT -5
a few years ago my wife and I were walking past a bar in Newport Beach and there was a band playing...we waited for a guitar solo and holy moly sounded like a lot of screeching and wrangling goin on...even my wife was cringing...the guy sounded good and was 'fast' as far as chops but when he bent notes it was terrible...on thing I noticed from dirrtycraig's video is his 'finesse' for a 'big' guy...whereas, on the other hand some players are at war with the guitar when they play and it is obvious that the guitar is winning!
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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 12:33:37 GMT -5
soory shred, didn't mean to put you on the defensive...but, a shreder rant is always cool!
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Post by DonaldDemon on Jan 13, 2006 13:07:09 GMT -5
Hey shred good to see you go off:) I know what you are saying but we just like to bust b*lls! I appreciate a good shreddin when I hear it and I listen to some of that stuff (if I can stomach the overall music). Heck, I just bought the G3 video with VAi, Satch, and Yngwie a month ago and I have watched probably 4 or 5 times already. Those dudes just amaze me.
I do see many guys that have the fast thing down though and have no feel and don't know how to do a bend properly and make it convincing. Its a combinaition of all those things you mentioned that make a great player.
I like what jimbax said about some guitarists look like they're having a war with the guitar and the guitar is winning! Craigs video showed he had finnese and control while shredding. That's what I like to see. Its like a race car driver; if your you're going to drive at 200 mph you better learn some darn control!
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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 13:10:18 GMT -5
Hey shred good to see you go off:) I know what you are saying but we just like to bust b*lls! I appreciate a good shreddin when I hear it and I listen to some of that stuff (if I can stomach the overall music). Heck, I just bought the G3 video with VAi, Satch, and Yngwie a month ago and I have watched probably 4 or 5 times already. Those dudes just amaze me. I do see many guys that have the fast thing down though and have no feel and don't know how to do a bend properly and make it convincing. Its a combinaition of all those things you mentioned that make a great player. I like what jimbax said about some guitarists look like they're having a war with the guitar and the guitar is winning! Craigs video showed he had finnese and control while shredding. That's what I like to see. Its like a race car driver; if your you're going to drive at 200 mph you better learn some darn control! check it out! Christians and demons agreeing....dogs and cats living together! last night was a full moon and its FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH!!!!!! ...OOOOOOHHHH... |
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Post by shreder75 on Jan 13, 2006 13:11:08 GMT -5
Hey shred good to see you go off:) I know what you are saying but we just like to bust b*lls! I appreciate a good shreddin when I hear it and I listen to some of that stuff (if I can stomach the overall music). Heck, I just bought the G3 video with VAi, Satch, and Yngwie a month ago and I have watched probably 4 or 5 times already. Those dudes just amaze me. I do see many guys that have the fast thing down though and have no feel and don't know how to do a bend properly and make it convincing. Its a combinaition of all those things you mentioned that make a great player. I like what jimbax said about some guitarists look like they're having a war with the guitar and the guitar is winning! Craigs video showed he had finnese and control while shredding. That's what I like to see. Its like a race car driver; if your you're going to drive at 200 mph you better learn some darn control! going off is something I do well most times...LOL..glad you didn't take it the wrong way! I know how these things can be misinterpreted over the net... yep, it's all about control..a sloppy SOB like CC deville is an example of how NOT to play the guitar... Kirk Hammet is also a good example of how NOT to play..especially his vibrato... I saw that G3 show in New York..what a blast =D Neil Schon and John Petrucci were there that night too..I wish McAlpine woulda played more guitar though than stayin' in the background on keys =( |
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Post by shreder75 on Jan 13, 2006 13:11:45 GMT -5
Hey shred good to see you go off:) I know what you are saying but we just like to bust b*lls! I appreciate a good shreddin when I hear it and I listen to some of that stuff (if I can stomach the overall music). Heck, I just bought the G3 video with VAi, Satch, and Yngwie a month ago and I have watched probably 4 or 5 times already. Those dudes just amaze me. I do see many guys that have the fast thing down though and have no feel and don't know how to do a bend properly and make it convincing. Its a combinaition of all those things you mentioned that make a great player. I like what jimbax said about some guitarists look like they're having a war with the guitar and the guitar is winning! Craigs video showed he had finnese and control while shredding. That's what I like to see. Its like a race car driver; if your you're going to drive at 200 mph you better learn some darn control! check it out! Christians and demons agreeing....dogs and cats living together! last night was a full moon and its FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH!!!!!! ...OOOOOOHHHH... mass hysteria but who's the christian and who's the demon? I'm cornfuzed  |
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Post by jimbax on Jan 13, 2006 13:24:31 GMT -5
man, I just had triple 6 posts too....OOOOOHHHHHH....
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Post by DonaldDemon on Jan 13, 2006 13:26:44 GMT -5
check it out! Christians and demons agreeing....dogs and cats living together! last night was a full moon and its FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH!!!!!! ...OOOOOOHHHH... LMAO..you may be on to something there jimbax. Who knows, maybe we finally end world hunger now! |
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