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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 10:56:00 GMT -5
Ok, I am workin' and listenning to Ratt's double 'best of' album 'Ratt and Roll 8191'...and they write some good tunes for a heavy edge pop rock band aimed at teenage girls!...
big marketing cliche' in rock/pop (cause its true..) "young girls age 8-18 make up the bulk of the pop/rock music purchaser" it was true at that time and probably true today...
'Body Talk' rocks! Demartini should give George Lynch a royalty for his riffing on this tune...
This band wrote more popular 'hard rock pop' tunes than anybody including Van Halen....IMHO
The hot rod Marshall guitar sound is excellent too!
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 28, 2005 11:02:27 GMT -5
Ok, I am workin' and listenning to Ratt's double 'best of' album 'Ratt and Roll 8191'...and they write some good tunes for a heavy edge pop rock band aimed at teenage girls!... big marketing cliche' in rock/pop (cause its true..) "young girls age 8-18 make up the bulk of the pop/rock music purchaser" it was true at that time and probably true today... 'Body Talk' rocks! Demartini should give George Lynch a royalty for his riffing on this tune... This band wrote better 'hard rock pop' tunes than anybody including Van Halen....IMHO The hot rod Marshall guitar sound is excellent too! i agree with this...except for the van halen part... |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 11:22:25 GMT -5
Ok, I am workin' and listenning to Ratt's double 'best of' album 'Ratt and Roll 8191'...and they write some good tunes for a heavy edge pop rock band aimed at teenage girls!... big marketing cliche' in rock/pop (cause its true..) "young girls age 8-18 make up the bulk of the pop/rock music purchaser" it was true at that time and probably true today... 'Body Talk' rocks! Demartini should give George Lynch a royalty for his riffing on this tune... This band wrote better 'hard rock pop' tunes than anybody including Van Halen....IMHO The hot rod Marshall guitar sound is excellent too! i agree with this...except for the van halen part... well, it depends on what 'catagory' we're talking about...I mean just plain turn on the radio and there is a rockin' pop tune on...Van Halen didn't write that many 'popular' tunes that appealed to the non-shred crowd whereas I think Ratt did.. |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 11:52:14 GMT -5
after listenning some more....Demartini leans 85% Lynch--- 15% Eddie...they do a great job of getting the cranked Marshall sound, one of the best I've heard, nice job engineers/producers...though the singer has a New York TON of junk on his voice (to help the boy out...)
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Post by TJ on Dec 28, 2005 16:20:19 GMT -5
Yeah I dig Ratt but Pearcy.........OMG!! He's horrible. I can carry a better tune with a can of beans and my butt.  |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 16:33:45 GMT -5
Yeah I dig Ratt but Pearcy.........OMG!! He's horrible. I can carry a better tune with a can of beans and my butt. He certainly has a bunch of processing on his voice in the studio....Demartinis solo on 'tell the world' is one of the worst solos I've ever heard on record...sounds like a cheap demo..the later songs are well produced 'body talk' 'round and round' 'lack of communication' etc... have a real nice 'ballsey' Marshall sound goin on. |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Dec 28, 2005 16:38:00 GMT -5
What!!?? Its funny in this thread I'm sticking up for VH in the other I'm ripping on them,, ha ha ha.
Jimbax..
Seriously dude, VH is one of the all-time best selling bands period. They had way more hits and sold millions more records than Ratt. Ratt was an LA Metal band. VH was a rock and roll band. Not a shredder thing at all. How do you correlate Eddies playing to anything 'shredding'?
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 28, 2005 16:41:36 GMT -5
ed invented shredding....
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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 16:48:01 GMT -5
What!!?? Its funny in this thread I'm sticking up for VH in the other I'm ripping on them,, ha ha ha. Jimbax.. Seriously dude, VH is one of the all-time best selling bands period. They had way more hits and sold millions more records than Ratt. Ratt was an LA Metal band. VH was a rock and roll band. Not a shredder thing at all. How do you correlate Eddies playing to anything 'shredding'? VH does not appeal to teen chicks...that's my point...they sell alot of albums, more than Ratt? of course...But, I think Ratt wrote better tunes than Van Halen for this genre....ALOT better. I listen to Van Halen and get sorry Eddie riffs as vehicles for his solos....I listen to Ratt and I get 'Bay City Rollers' of the 80s writing cheesy pop love tunes (with some sac) aimed directly at teen chicks...I'm not a teen chick (hehe) but, overall, I like more Ratt songs than I do Van Halen guit-riff-vehicles...But, I like Eddie as a great guitar player...make any sense? |
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Post by motrock on Dec 28, 2005 16:49:37 GMT -5
Good god guys, no more Van Halen fighting! LOL
Demartini is one of my favorites. I am trying to track down a couple of Ratt pro shot boots on DVD. I have them doing 2 songs along with Kingdom Come, Brittney Foxx, and Bon Jovi. It was a 1988 New Years Eve Special from Japan. Anyway, Demartini has great Marshall tones on the early albums. He switched to Soldano SLO-100s later on. He still rules though. Does he still play with anyone? Body Talk is a great riffing tune! Lay It Down is really cool too. Lack Of Communication has the Drop D tuning thing going on. Love that one too.
I like Demartini's guitars. What are they? Strats? Charvels? I always wanted to get the whole Snake Skin look. Very cool paint job!
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 28, 2005 16:53:38 GMT -5
Good god guys, no more Van Halen fighting! LOL Demartini is one of my favorites. I am trying to track down a couple of Ratt pro shot boots on DVD. I have them doing 2 songs along with Kingdom Come, Brittney Foxx, and Bon Jovi. It was a 1988 New Years Eve Special from Japan. Anyway, Demartini has great Marshall tones on the early albums. He switched to Soldano SLO-100s later on. He still rules though. Does he still play with anyone? Body Talk is a great riffing tune! Lay It Down is really cool too. Lack Of Communication has the Drop D tuning thing going on. Love that one too. I like Demartini's guitars. What are they? Strats? Charvels? I always wanted to get the whole Snake Skin look. Very cool paint job! mo, do you have the proshot stuff from the out of the cellar tour where they do 3 or 4 songs?...not sure where it was filmed...maybe santa monica...demartini is playing the crossed swords |
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Post by motrock on Dec 28, 2005 16:55:22 GMT -5
Good god guys, no more Van Halen fighting! LOL Demartini is one of my favorites. I am trying to track down a couple of Ratt pro shot boots on DVD. I have them doing 2 songs along with Kingdom Come, Brittney Foxx, and Bon Jovi. It was a 1988 New Years Eve Special from Japan. Anyway, Demartini has great Marshall tones on the early albums. He switched to Soldano SLO-100s later on. He still rules though. Does he still play with anyone? Body Talk is a great riffing tune! Lay It Down is really cool too. Lack Of Communication has the Drop D tuning thing going on. Love that one too. I like Demartini's guitars. What are they? Strats? Charvels? I always wanted to get the whole Snake Skin look. Very cool paint job! mo, do you have the proshot stuff from the out of the cellar tour where they do 3 or 4 songs?...not sure where it was filmed...maybe santa monica...demartini is playing the crossed swords Thats the one that I am trying to find. I have a friend that can get all that stuff. Acctually, he has it all on video. He's got to get them transfered to DVD. I grew up on that stuff! |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 28, 2005 16:58:52 GMT -5
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Post by motrock on Dec 28, 2005 19:05:14 GMT -5
Thats just a wicked riff man! I am going to get a band together about like Craigs around here. Hair Metal with some 70s hard rock. Body Talk would be cool..........just as long as I could get someone who could sing it! |
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Post by TJ on Dec 28, 2005 19:25:22 GMT -5
I like Demartini's guitars. What are they? Strats? Charvels? I always wanted to get the whole Snake Skin look. Very cool paint job! they're pro guitars and wayne charvel guitars. you can get the cross swords here. www.wayneguitars.com |
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