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Post by cvogue on Nov 28, 2020 18:44:06 GMT -5
So got some B-day cash and pulled the trigger on a Wampler Tumnus. The Buxom Boost sounds fantastic but I wanted a buffered pedal. Tumnus is buffered, transparant and sounds great! Unfortunately it's on backorder, oh well. Can't wait until everything shows up, matching 1x12 extension cab from Scott, Tumnus (will go at the beginning of my chain). Do you use a pedal switcher on your board? Nope, I'm old school! All separate, Guitar->Boss Compressor (about to be replaced with Tumnus)->HardWire tuner->Mooer wah->Banshee->Phase 90->Ratt->Analog Delay->front of amp. All of those are true bypass except for the Boss which is being replaced. Not having that buffer there does make a difference... lose some high end.
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Post by gtrjunior on Nov 28, 2020 20:36:46 GMT -5
Do you use a pedal switcher on your board? Nope, I'm old school! All separate, Guitar->Boss Compressor (about to be replaced with Tumnus)->HardWire tuner->Mooer wah->Banshee->Phase 90->Ratt->Analog Delay->front of amp. All of those are true bypass except for the Boss which is being replaced. Not having that buffer there does make a difference... lose some high end. I was asking because as a gigging musician in a cover band you would definitely appreciate being able to step on one button and switch multiple fx on and off. Plus you can make patches specific to each song if you want. I have mine set up as one patch is my “all around” sounds. And I have separate patches from my that I use for specific songs that need particular fx. I have all my midi capable pedals switched via midi so it’s all done automatically. Makes life a breeze... Sounds like you’ve got a pretty sizable board (like me) and I can’t imagine going back to not having one.
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Post by cvogue on Nov 29, 2020 1:04:25 GMT -5
Nope, I'm old school! All separate, Guitar->Boss Compressor (about to be replaced with Tumnus)->HardWire tuner->Mooer wah->Banshee->Phase 90->Ratt->Analog Delay->front of amp. All of those are true bypass except for the Boss which is being replaced. Not having that buffer there does make a difference... lose some high end. I was asking because as a gigging musician in a cover band you would definitely appreciate being able to step on one button and switch multiple fx on and off. Plus you can make patches specific to each song if you want. I have mine set up as one patch is my “all around” sounds. And I have separate patches from my that I use for specific songs that need particular fx. I have all my midi capable pedals switched via midi so it’s all done automatically. Makes life a breeze... Sounds like you’ve got a pretty sizable board (like me) and I can’t imagine going back to not having one. Yeah I've actually been looking at the BOSS MS-3, multi effects and switching... Where I could really use that is, as you said, different effects for different songs. I don't have a lot but I do a lot of tap dancing for certain songs. Where I use those though is from my Zoom G3 in the loop. I've got one bank for general stuff and then other banks for specific things for specific songs. It would be helpful to have one stop shopping for that but for now I'll deal with it!
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Post by cvogue on Dec 29, 2020 13:59:18 GMT -5
I was asking because as a gigging musician in a cover band you would definitely appreciate being able to step on one button and switch multiple fx on and off. Plus you can make patches specific to each song if you want. I have mine set up as one patch is my “all around” sounds. And I have separate patches from my that I use for specific songs that need particular fx. I have all my midi capable pedals switched via midi so it’s all done automatically. Makes life a breeze... Sounds like you’ve got a pretty sizable board (like me) and I can’t imagine going back to not having one. Yeah I've actually been looking at the BOSS MS-3, multi effects and switching... Where I could really use that is, as you said, different effects for different songs. I don't have a lot but I do a lot of tap dancing for certain songs. Where I use those though is from my Zoom G3 in the loop. I've got one bank for general stuff and then other banks for specific things for specific songs. It would be helpful to have one stop shopping for that but for now I'll deal with it! Hey gtrjunior, do you use your switching mechanism to control your Splawn? I was looking around and saw some posts on here that you can control what the Splawn footswitch does with a MIDI controller. Basically you would end up using four loops from a switcher to do what the four button footswitch does. But... with a lot more control, would be nice to touch one button for leads that makes the Splawn go from OD1 to OD2, kicks on the solo boost and also turns on the Tumnus! I'm thinking you could program a switcher to do that. Hmmm.... Next Christmas!
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Post by gtrjunior on Dec 29, 2020 18:34:50 GMT -5
Yeah I've actually been looking at the BOSS MS-3, multi effects and switching... Where I could really use that is, as you said, different effects for different songs. I don't have a lot but I do a lot of tap dancing for certain songs. Where I use those though is from my Zoom G3 in the loop. I've got one bank for general stuff and then other banks for specific things for specific songs. It would be helpful to have one stop shopping for that but for now I'll deal with it! Hey gtrjunior, do you use your switching mechanism to control your Splawn? I was looking around and saw some posts on here that you can control what the Splawn footswitch does with a MIDI controller. Basically you would end up using four loops from a switcher to do what the four button footswitch does. But... with a lot more control, would be nice to touch one button for leads that makes the Splawn go from OD1 to OD2, kicks on the solo boost and also turns on the Tumnus! I'm thinking you could program a switcher to do that. Hmmm.... Next Christmas! Yes I do. But it is much better than just using the controller to mimic the Splawn foot switch. With midi you can turn on/off multiple pedals AND switch channels/gear/OD1/2....all with ONE press of a button. The only caveat is that you need to preprogrammed these changes. Short example. You have a song that needs a clean part with chorus/delay/reverb. You set up one button to turn all of those pedals on as well as change to the clean channel on the amp Then you need to go to a light OD setting. So you use a pedal OD as well as reverb. Press button #2 and it turns off the delay and chorus, turns on the OD. Etc. If you have digital pedals (delay modulation) it can also change patches for you with I click.
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Post by cvogue on Dec 29, 2020 18:42:41 GMT -5
Hey gtrjunior, do you use your switching mechanism to control your Splawn? I was looking around and saw some posts on here that you can control what the Splawn footswitch does with a MIDI controller. Basically you would end up using four loops from a switcher to do what the four button footswitch does. But... with a lot more control, would be nice to touch one button for leads that makes the Splawn go from OD1 to OD2, kicks on the solo boost and also turns on the Tumnus! I'm thinking you could program a switcher to do that. Hmmm.... Next Christmas! Yes I do. But it is much better than just using the controller to mimic the Splawn foot switch. With midi you can turn on/off multiple pedals AND switch channels/gear/OD1/2....all with ONE press of a button. The only caveat is that you need to preprogrammed these changes. Short example. You have a song that needs a clean part with chorus/delay/reverb. You set up one button to turn all of those pedals on as well as change to the clean channel on the amp Then you need to go to a light OD setting. So you use a pedal OD as well as reverb. Press button #2 and it turns off the delay and chorus, turns on the OD. Etc. If you have digital pedals (delay modulation) it can also change patches for you with I click. That's really cool... yeah, now I need one!
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Post by gtrjunior on Dec 29, 2020 21:00:42 GMT -5
Yes I do. But it is much better than just using the controller to mimic the Splawn foot switch. With midi you can turn on/off multiple pedals AND switch channels/gear/OD1/2....all with ONE press of a button. The only caveat is that you need to preprogrammed these changes. Short example. You have a song that needs a clean part with chorus/delay/reverb. You set up one button to turn all of those pedals on as well as change to the clean channel on the amp Then you need to go to a light OD setting. So you use a pedal OD as well as reverb. Press button #2 and it turns off the delay and chorus, turns on the OD. Etc. If you have digital pedals (delay modulation) it can also change patches for you with I click. That's really cool... yeah, now I need one! They can be tricky to set up but once you get one I promise you, you’ll never go without again Mine is a Musicomlab MKIII. It’s an older unit now. I believe there are 2 newer versions out. But Boss makes the ES-5 and ES-8 which are killer units.
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Post by briman on Dec 29, 2020 21:22:37 GMT -5
Yeah i have the boss es8 and once you program it for your patches. .. life is so simple and great! But programming it is tricky. You will have to do alot of reading and tinkering. I have 2 boss midi pedals and putting in all different patch numbers is not that bad but assign functions are tricky. For example, if you want one button to control your flanger while you are in your favorite patch, you will have to pick a button and then turn off that button in settings then go and assign it as non temp latch. Then go into that button function and assign it to turn pedal #3 off/on. I think to change splawn channels, you would use the control jacks. There are 5 of them on the es8. I don't know how they function because i am using a 1 channel amp and have never had to use them. I am not sure how you would set it up as the splawn only have 1 jack for footswitch? There must be a way but you will need to read up. I know amps that have midi like Marshall JVM are able to everything through midi . The jacks on back of es8 are ctrl 1/3, ctrl 2/4 etc. So wondering maybe would be able to only change between 2 channels on splawn? Lol now i am curious how you would be able to change from channel 1 od1 to channel 2 od2 for example???
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Post by cvogue on Dec 29, 2020 22:49:31 GMT -5
Yeah i have the boss es8 and once you program it for your patches. .. life is so simple and great! But programming it is tricky. You will have to do alot of reading and tinkering. I have 2 boss midi pedals and putting in all different patch numbers is not that bad but assign functions are tricky. For example, if you want one button to control your flanger while you are in your favorite patch, you will have to pick a button and then turn off that button in settings then go and assign it as non temp latch. Then go into that button function and assign it to turn pedal #3 off/on. I think to change splawn channels, you would use the control jacks. There are 5 of them on the es8. I don't know how they function because i am using a 1 channel amp and have never had to use them. I am not sure how you would set it up as the splawn only have 1 jack for footswitch? There must be a way but you will need to read up. I know amps that have midi like Marshall JVM are able to everything through midi . The jacks on back of es8 are ctrl 1/3, ctrl 2/4 etc. So wondering maybe would be able to only change between 2 channels on splawn? Lol now i am curious how you would be able to change from channel 1 od1 to channel 2 od2 for example??? From what I've read, anything you can do with the four button Splawn footswitch you can do with via a MIDI switcher connecting to the control jacks. So you can go from gear 1 to gear 2 or gear 3 to gear 2 but not 1 to 3 for instance. You can also have OD1 or OD2 switchable and go from clean to dirty and have the boost switchable. This thread has some explanation: splawnfans.proboards.com/thread/9789/recommend-pedal-switcher-looperOn my Street Rod with the two channels I have two footswitch jacks on the back, A and B. I think the inner/outer sleeves of the jack allow you to control two things. So in my case with the Street Rod (and the Quick Rod) you can control four different things, a'la the four button footswitch. Clean/dirty, gear 2 to either 1 or 3, OD1/OD2 and solo boost. I think the JVM series does the same kind of thing...
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Post by briman on Dec 29, 2020 23:10:22 GMT -5
Oh yeah that's right there are 2 jacks for footswitch on splawn. So you would plug into 2 of the ctrl jacks on es8 and have 4 options i guess. You would then have to program that ctl funtion into your patches. I had a hell of a time learning how to set up my patches with all the different funtions and codes from 2 midi pedals and the es8. Be ready to watch tons of tutorials on YouTube and reading the manual alot lol. It is not easy and i am usually pretty good with that stuff. My boss dd500 has a looper function in it. You should see the programming you have to do with the es8 to run that lol!!
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Post by gtrjunior on Dec 30, 2020 5:43:13 GMT -5
Yeah i have the boss es8 and once you program it for your patches. .. life is so simple and great! But programming it is tricky. You will have to do alot of reading and tinkering. I have 2 boss midi pedals and putting in all different patch numbers is not that bad but assign functions are tricky. For example, if you want one button to control your flanger while you are in your favorite patch, you will have to pick a button and then turn off that button in settings then go and assign it as non temp latch. Then go into that button function and assign it to turn pedal #3 off/on. I think to change splawn channels, you would use the control jacks. There are 5 of them on the es8. I don't know how they function because i am using a 1 channel amp and have never had to use them. I am not sure how you would set it up as the splawn only have 1 jack for footswitch? There must be a way but you will need to read up. I know amps that have midi like Marshall JVM are able to everything through midi . The jacks on back of es8 are ctrl 1/3, ctrl 2/4 etc. So wondering maybe would be able to only change between 2 channels on splawn? Lol now i am curious how you would be able to change from channel 1 od1 to channel 2 od2 for example??? From what I've read, anything you can do with the four button Splawn footswitch you can do with via a MIDI switcher connecting to the control jacks. So you can go from gear 1 to gear 2 or gear 3 to gear 2 but not 1 to 3 for instance. You can also have OD1 or OD2 switchable and go from clean to dirty and have the boost switchable. This thread has some explanation: splawnfans.proboards.com/thread/9789/recommend-pedal-switcher-looperOn my Street Rod with the two channels I have two footswitch jacks on the back, A and B. I think the inner/outer sleeves of the jack allow you to control two things. So in my case with the Street Rod (and the Quick Rod) you can control four different things, a'la the four button footswitch. Clean/dirty, gear 2 to either 1 or 3, OD1/OD2 and solo boost. I think the JVM series does the same kind of thing... This is exactly correct.
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Post by gtrjunior on Dec 30, 2020 5:44:32 GMT -5
If you have trouble post here...we will be happy to help out the best we can. From what I understand the midi programming is very similar for all of the switcher units out there.
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Post by briman on Dec 30, 2020 13:03:17 GMT -5
The hard part for me was learning all the codes for my boss dd500 and md500 and then entering all that into the es8 midi programming. Setting up tap delay to the es8 was crazy and i gave up lol.
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Post by gtrjunior on Dec 30, 2020 13:13:04 GMT -5
The hard part for me was learning all the codes for my boss dd500 and md500 and then entering all that into the es8 midi programming. Setting up tap delay to the es8 was crazy and i gave up lol. I don’t typically have a need for a specific tap setting but if I did I’d just do it from the pedal on the fly. A preset tempo won’t work if the band is playing too fast or slow. I have 2 Seymour Duncan pedals (Andromeda and Silver Lake) and 1 Strymon (Möbius) and the midi program changes not work the same way. Program 1=00 Program 2=01 Etc. But trying to figure that stuff out was a complete headache. But once you “get it” it’s fairly easy.
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Post by marksimonhell on Jan 1, 2021 11:39:14 GMT -5
hey, i'm new here! so.. happy new year guys! BTW.. I see many who use the bass at 12 or higher .. I keep them around 9 .. I find the QR with many, too many booming bass .. nice if you play in the bedroom but not very functional with the band (you know, it mixes with the bass, etc ..) I don't know if the power tubes I mount, EL34B, are not the cause of this? ... I also find that, compared to a marshall 800, it lacks a bit of that "scratch" on the mid-highs that pierce the mix, it seems to have a blanket in front of the speaker .... maybe always the tubes? for the rest I love this amp, the creaminess of the gain, some solutions like the boost only with + gain ... I think the gears in the footswitch is a bit useless but ok .. even if i have nothing in send / return i keep it turned on with the volume at maximum .. i hear a better sound ..
btw I play early 80's heavy metal stuff with a super strat and classic 4x12 Marshall 1960s (G75-12 Celestion speaker)
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