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[shreder75]

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that's hysterical by the way

[VicariousVIRUS]

Thanks a lot for the information Sherer75. Really appreciate the insight brother! Any other pickups you guys reccomend? Yeah I've got a bill lawrence XL500 aswell

[Ayton(e)]

Are we saying the JB and BBQ are similar? They don't sound it to me. I've had two new guitars with JBs this year and in each case could only stand that pup a week or so before removing it. Too spiky, nasal, aggravated, hot. The BBQ has a much more interesting sound for my money, so much going on in the mids, it practically talks, and I love the way it reacts dynamically. The JB for me is really one-notey, like a v30 in pickup form.

JB is ~16.8k, BBQ is ~12.5k.

[shreder75]

Dec 21, 2010 14:03:57 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

Are we saying the JB and BBQ are similar? They don't sound it to me. I've had two new guitars with JBs this year and in each case could only stand that pup a week or so before removing it. Too spiky, nasal, aggravated, hot. The BBQ has a much more interesting sound for my money, so much going on in the mids, it practically talks, and I love the way it reacts dynamically. The JB for me is really one-notey, like a v30 in pickup form.

JB is ~16.8k, BBQ is ~12.5k.

just saying which production pickup it normally gets compared to....resistance isn't always the final say so in how hot a pickup feels or not....

one of the reasons I got rid of the BBQ was it wasn't agressive enough for my liking...so I went back to the JB...

sometimes I want to swap out the JB with a duncan distortion in my Haji, but I already have two other guitars loaded with the DD so I just keep it like that

[shreder75]

although I may dig it now with the smallblocks..as those speakers tend to make everything angrier to begin with..hehe

[Ayton(e)]

I hear you on the DC resistance (my 7k Alnico II Pro should sound like a mouse, but it really does bring the Appetite for Destruction toanz) and I know it's imperfect, but in this case I think it does indicate the difference between the two. The JB feels madly overwound and unwilling to have dynamics coaxed out of it, while the BBQ seems balanced and tuned in to variations in your playing, but I know you are all about teh rage, and a JB will at least take you further in that magical 1st Gear than Scotts gain knob will go.

Horses for courses and all that, I was just surprised to hear them compared. I'd swap my pulled JBs for BBQs in a minute!

[shreder75]

Dec 21, 2010 14:37:05 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

I hear you on the DC resistance (my 7k Alnico II Pro should sound like a mouse, but it really does bring the Appetite for Destruction toanz) and I know it's imperfect, but in this case I think it does indicate the difference between the two. The JB feels madly overwound and unwilling to have dynamics coaxed out of it, while the BBQ seems balanced and tuned in to variations in your playing, but I know you are all about teh rage, and a JB will at least take you further in that magical 1st Gear than Scotts gain knob will go.

Horses for courses and all that, I was just surprised to hear them compared. I'd swap my pulled JBs for BBQs in a minute!

I guess in reality a BBQ would be more like a PAF type of pickup...not really hot rodded like a JB or a distortion...

I'd try one again...But I don't wanna go through the hassle of swapping, trying, swapping, bah!

[Ayton(e)]

Yeah, I love the trying part, but soldering is such a hassle. That new Charvel had five wires all earthed on the same 3mm tab. Torture, adding a new pup and trying to put all those back in place on that tiny lug. It's amazing, 60 years on, how there's no plug-and-play standard for pickup installation. The SD Liberator announced just recently looks like a step in the right direction.

What guitar did you try the BBQ in? I ask because mine only came to life when I hooked it to a single 500k pot and no tone control. It was subdued in the same guitar with 250s and a tone.

[VicariousVIRUS]

So are you guys not finding the BBQ hot enough for you? I like the JB, I play a lot of TOOL. It does AJ's tone well with a quickrod and a les paul. But I do feel like the sound is constrained sometimes, and lacks some dynamics. Will the BBQ even everything else out and I'll just have to be a little more aware of the gain knob? Or are they different ballparks and sounds all together.

[Ayton(e)]

Not us guys, just S75! The BBQ is plenty hot enough for me. And Craig, and gadzz, and, oh, Scott Splawn. ;D

I wouldn't know which would be better for Tool.

[shreder75]

Dec 21, 2010 15:32:10 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

Yeah, I love the trying part, but soldering is such a hassle. That new Charvel had five wires all earthed on the same 3mm tab. Torture, adding a new pup and trying to put all those back in place on that tiny lug. It's amazing, 60 years on, how there's no plug-and-play standard for pickup installation. The SD Liberator announced just recently looks like a step in the right direction.

What guitar did you try the BBQ in? I ask because mine only came to life when I hooked it to a single 500k pot and no tone control. It was subdued in the same guitar with 250s and a tone.

I had it in my lynch which has a 500K pot..and in my EBMM petrucci..everything sounded like ass in that though

[shreder75]

Dec 21, 2010 17:00:51 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

Not us guys, just S75! The BBQ is plenty hot enough for me. And Craig, and gadzz, and, oh, Scott Splawn. ;D

I wouldn't know which would be better for Tool.

all of whom dial in their sounds darker than mine =D I tend to dig more edge to my sound..

that being said, I still like the DD more than the JB these days

[Ayton(e)]

I would really like to try that 59 Custom hybrid they invented over at the SD forum. They take one bobbin off a Custom 5 and one off a 59 then tape it all up. I think it would really rip, but those bobbin connections are f'n tiny for soldering. Everyone seems to love it, though.

[shreder75]

Dec 21, 2010 18:58:16 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

I would really like to try that 59 Custom hybrid they invented over at the SD forum. They take one bobbin off a Custom 5 and one off a 59 then tape it all up. I think it would really rip, but those bobbin connections are f'n tiny for soldering. Everyone seems to love it, though.

hmmmmmmm..maybe that'll end up in a new production pickup from SD..that's how the custom came about..or was that the custom custom?

been thinking of putting a 59 in the neck of my epi...not really happy with the air norton I have in there now....it's ok I guess..but it seems kinda...flat...no personality...dig?

[DonaldDemon]

Would you gheys say that the BBQ is mostly great for 80’s butt rock? I have the JB/59 in my Edwards and I would like to replace it someday. It definitely pushes the amp more but sounds a little too mid honky for me. Does the BBQ do ok on cleaner mid gain tones?

Dec 19, 2010 15:52:32 GMT -5 VicariousVIRUS said:

Damn, I've been using the JB for quiet sometime now. I want something different. There is way too many people in a shop somewhere hand winding amazing pickups for me to play a JB. I love it, It's a standard in the pickup industry. But is the BBQ work getting if the JB is comprable and similar? I'd rather have the high mids aswell. I play a lot of TOOL type music, so it's real mid heavy.

That’s kind of how I feel about it too. I was looking into Brian Gunsher p-ups for a while. They seem to get good praise for the price