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Post by brian on May 16, 2010 19:24:43 GMT -5
Well then there is DEFINITELY something seriously wrong with my nitro..because my 6505(5150) is everything my nitro is and it does cut more.with the two kt 88s and two 6l6s this thing is a monster.the fizz is cut,more headroom,cleaner sounding distortion..i am REALLY digging it guys i hate to say.
I've had some time to fiddle with the eq settings and when set correctly it is amazing. i can't wait to a/b it with the nitro when it gets back,the nitro is going to have come back a lot better than when it left to stay in my possession.
i got to jam with my friends for a little bit two days ago and the bass player,drummer and other guitarist all said they like my sound more now than with the nitro. i still feel i have a bit of a pickup problem since it does still have a lack of bite and top end issue when not boosted(still sounds a bit muddy and lacks the oomph i feel it should have ,the jb is a pretty hot pup.)..that is next on the "fix" list.
i hope to hear back from Scott in a few weeks with a diagnosis on it,he said 4 weeks or so after he gets it until he takes a look at it and he should have got it Friday.we'll see.
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Post by snappinnecks on May 17, 2010 12:09:07 GMT -5
The Nitro is a dark amp. An EQ pedal in the loop fixes everything. Also depending on what pedal you get it can also act as a boost, so you won't need anything out in front. The EQ curve should look like basically a big frown (a smooth curve). Boost the poo out of the mids and cut the low bass and extreme highs. You will have a mid cutting monster. I did a video a while back using an EQ pedal in the loop with this type of EQ setting. www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkEJDD-3lEI have owned a 6505+ and it pails in comparison to my Nitro with the EQ in the loop. The Nitro has way more cut and no fizzy buzzy stuff going on like the 6505. It's all in how you mold the preamp in the loop. I have found the loop is the key to unlocking more options with Splawns. |
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Post by splawndude on May 17, 2010 18:51:46 GMT -5
I don't own a Nitro but I can't imagine having any trouble getting KSE tones. Granted I have a Quick Rod with EL34s but I've got more mids than I know what to do with. My EQ is flatter between 10 and 1 o'clock. Boost with a Bad Monkey and EQ in the loop (flat as well).
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Post by ksefan on May 23, 2010 16:29:43 GMT -5
I may be missing something but why couldn't they set the tone to sound best out front then eq the in ear separately to Joels taste. The live stuff on the new cd sounds awesome to me..... They for sure can do that... but joels first thought most likely when he tried the in ears wasn't for the monitor guy to eq it but for him to do the natural thing and just set the knobs himself... RANDOM PORN:  what's cool is adam used to have an EVH 5150 III in the bottom headspace part of that case and was always turned off (a backup head) and from this pic you can see that the splawn is on, and the mesa roadster is also on (channel 4, with the loop active I can see because of the blue and red lights)  I'm not certain on what he'd be doing with both heads on (and both on distortion)... ive noticed also he has 1 412 on stage as a monitor and so does joel then they both have another 412 off side stage with mics hooked up to it... maybe he's got 1 head going to 1 412, the other going to the other but then only one of the 2 (splawn or mesa) would be going to front of house :S I don't know... or he's a wild guess (since we know that the mesa roadster has the loop active) he could be slaving the nitro to the roadster via the roadster fx loop... I know a guy who did that with a 5150 and an engl savage. (using the nitros powersection with the mesa's pre) RANDOM guess but could be right. |
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Post by ksefan on May 23, 2010 16:30:47 GMT -5
Well then there is DEFINITELY something seriously wrong with my nitro..because my 6505(5150) is everything my nitro is and it does cut more.with the two kt 88s and two 6l6s this thing is a monster.the fizz is cut,more headroom,cleaner sounding distortion..i am REALLY digging it guys i hate to say. I've had some time to fiddle with the eq settings and when set correctly it is amazing. i can't wait to a/b it with the nitro when it gets back,the nitro is going to have come back a lot better than when it left to stay in my possession. i got to jam with my friends for a little bit two days ago and the bass player,drummer and other guitarist all said they like my sound more now than with the nitro. i still feel i have a bit of a pickup problem since it does still have a lack of bite and top end issue when not boosted(still sounds a bit muddy and lacks the oomph i feel it should have ,the jb is a pretty hot pup.)..that is next on the "fix" list. i hope to hear back from Scott in a few weeks with a diagnosis on it,he said 4 weeks or so after he gets it until he takes a look at it and he should have got it Friday.we'll see. don't listen to the people on here who said that 5150's aren't good amps. I don't mean to be rude but they don't know tone if they think so it's a very commonly known thing that 5150's rule. Maybe you just like the 5150 tone more. |
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Post by SmokinPaul on May 23, 2010 17:38:47 GMT -5
Are you talking about the 5150 III or the Peavey crap? Good as far as reliability 'cause it's built by Peavey, but c'mon dude....they really suck! It's bacon fryin'!
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Post by flgearnut on May 23, 2010 23:27:38 GMT -5
whoa since when does Adam D play a PRS??!  thats fricken awesome..im a big PRS fan.. |
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Post by ksefan on May 24, 2010 21:40:39 GMT -5
Are you talking about the 5150 III or the Peavey crap? Good as far as reliability 'cause it's built by Peavey, but c'mon dude....they really suck! It's bacon fryin'! I am in fact talking about Peavey 5150s. which ARE good amps with GOOD tone. |
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Post by ksefan on May 24, 2010 21:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by bubbastain on May 24, 2010 23:53:11 GMT -5
Are you talking about the 5150 III or the Peavey crap? Good as far as reliability 'cause it's built by Peavey, but c'mon dude....they really suck! It's bacon fryin'! I am in fact talking about Peavey 5150s. which ARE good amps with GOOD tone. +1. actually damn good amps with bad ass tone.(just take it easy with the gain knob) |
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Post by brian on May 25, 2010 8:33:42 GMT -5
yeah i found that 6-6.5 is enough gain for sure with my 6505(5150) and i'm a gainaholic. it gets muddy and really fizzy after 6.5-7.but in the range i'm in it is sweet.
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Post by bubbastain on May 25, 2010 10:06:42 GMT -5
yeah i found that 6-6.5 is enough gain for sure with my 6505(5150) and i'm a gainaholic. it gets muddy and really fizzy after 6.5-7.but in the range i'm in it is sweet. I'm talking like less than 5. I had mine about 3.5 most of the time and it was very heavy. Sometimes i brought it up to 4 or 4.5 just to mess around. This was on my 6505+ but I had very similar settings with my original 5150. I don't use a boost either. My Dano fish'n'chips in the loop is nice though. |
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Post by ksefan on May 28, 2010 18:08:46 GMT -5
yeah i found that 6-6.5 is enough gain for sure with my 6505(5150) and i'm a gainaholic. it gets muddy and really fizzy after 6.5-7.but in the range i'm in it is sweet. dang even that's high for mine... i keep the gain at 12 o clock. and i don't use a boost pedal. listen to any song on KsE's the end of heartache besides rose of sharyn. what you hear is 2 tracks framus dragon and 2 tracks 5150 (take this oath is a good example cuz it's got lots of rhythm playing) then for rose of sharyn substitute the dragon out for a cobra still with teh 5150 tracks also. |
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Post by ksefan on May 28, 2010 19:28:05 GMT -5
looky here at KsE fans find. BAM  so as we can see: resonence almost 9 presence none bass full middle 2 and a half treble 4 solo 4 volume just under 2 gain 6 maxon od: overdrive off completely. tone 12 o clock balance full for the isp decimator pro rack g channel 1 threshold on exactly 2 out of 10 (but the threshold knobs aren't labeled 1 through 10 on the decimator) and the channel 2 threshold on 3 (all settings out of 10 not o clock obviously) and for those who don't know about the dec pro rack g channel 1 is designated for in front of the amp, and channel 2 for the effects loop but channel one has got 3 in out buttons that do various things, and channel 2 has also got 2 in out buttons that we obviously can't see which are pushed in and which are out. to be honest though the decimator pro rack g has a little red on power light that we should be able to see in the picture and i can't see it so maybe it's off and joel's back to using the ns2 by boss. also you can see there's no mics up to the cab that's the monitor cab for stage volume (and for the kids front row who can't hear FOH speakers) and he's got a 2nd cab off side stage facing towards the side of his cases that has got mics up to it! |
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Post by ksefan on May 28, 2010 19:52:18 GMT -5
idk how this post got here so I deleted what it said it was me quoting my self :S
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