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Post by shreder75 on Oct 20, 2008 13:42:02 GMT -5
they weren't routed though...they were raised up for action purposes I beleive you think they have flush floyds?...i'll have to ask the guys over at the charvel board that's how I saw it..unless i'm misunderstanding... take my lynch..it's got a cavity under the floyd...so you can lower it till it sits flush with the body, but you can still pull it up.. the vominator on the other hand has no routed area back by where the fine tuners are..so if you lower it all th eway it sits on top of the body... unless there's a third type I don't know about..lol |
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 20, 2008 13:45:38 GMT -5
you think they have flush floyds?...i'll have to ask the guys over at the charvel board that's how I saw it..unless i'm misunderstanding... take my lynch..it's got a cavity under the floyd...so you can lower it till it sits flush with the body, but you can still pull it up.. the vominator on the other hand has no routed area back by where the fine tuners are..so if you lower it all th eway it sits on top of the body... unless there's a third type I don't know about..lol the first charvels and kramers were floating and not recessed...the recessed thing came after steve vai and sh!t years after...so when you bought a floyded guitar in the early 80s the trem was floating but never recessed...my kramer baretta was exactly like the charvel at scotts shop...floating floyd, not recessed |
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Post by conan on Oct 20, 2008 13:48:08 GMT -5
Shreder is right on this, you can lower the bridge on those Charvels and they will sit flush on the body...you can also set them to float too if you want. The Charvel at Scott's was set to give you some float but I am sure you can lower it so it sits flush with the body. My BC Rich is the same way and when Vom held up the Charvel when we were looking at it it reminded me of my Rich.
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 20, 2008 13:49:18 GMT -5
Shreder is right on this, you can lower the bridge on those Charvels and they will sit flush on the body...you can also set them to float too if you want. The Charvel at Scott's was set to give you some float but I am sure you can lower it so it sits flush with the body. My BC Rich is the same way and when Vom held up the Charvel when we were looking at it it reminded me of my Rich. hmmm.interesting.... |
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 20, 2008 13:50:48 GMT -5
Conan the Librarian speaketh!
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Post by TJ on Oct 20, 2008 13:51:25 GMT -5
Mike welcome to the boards man. Great meeting you this weekend. It was fun cutting up and hanging with all of you. I love that BC Rich. Those p/ups are killer in that thing. Great playing guitar!!! You should have gotten up and jammed at Chrismac's. What a great weekend that was. Went by way too quickly. I think next year we all need to get shirts made that say "Splawn" on the front and on the back "Got Brisket tacos?"
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 20, 2008 13:52:59 GMT -5
Mike welcome to the boards man. Great meeting you this weekend. It was fun cutting up and hanging with all of you. I love that BC Rich. Those p/ups are killer in that thing. Great playing guitar!!! You should have gotten up and jammed at Chrismac's. What a great weekend that was. Went by way too quickly. I think next year we all need to get shirts made that say "Splawn" on the front and on the back "Got Brisket tacos?" got brisket tacos...LOL |
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 20, 2008 13:54:57 GMT -5
i had a dream that a plate of brisket tacos took me to paris and we were making out on the champs d'elysses...it was so romantic
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 20, 2008 13:56:53 GMT -5
yeah, they were great..I even enjoyed them the whole trip home too
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Post by TJ on Oct 20, 2008 14:00:32 GMT -5
yeah, they were great..I even enjoyed them the whole trip home too lol I honestly am still enjoying them today. WTF?  ? ;D |
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Post by conan on Oct 20, 2008 14:04:39 GMT -5
that's how I saw it..unless i'm misunderstanding... take my lynch..it's got a cavity under the floyd...so you can lower it till it sits flush with the body, but you can still pull it up.. the vominator on the other hand has no routed area back by where the fine tuners are..so if you lower it all th eway it sits on top of the body... unless there's a third type I don't know about..lol the first charvels and kramers were floating and not recessed...the recessed thing came after steve vai and sh!t years after...so when you bought a floyded guitar in the early 80s the trem was floating but never recessed...my kramer baretta was exactly like the charvel at scotts shop...floating floyd, not recessed Vom, Vom, Vom  ...you have to remember the first chavels didn't have the FR it was a regular brass strat bridge..so essentially the guitar was set up like a strat..It wasn't until people started modding their Charvels that you saw them with the FR. Besides correct me if I am wrong..Kramer had the deal with FR so Charvel couldn't use them which is why the Kahler. They would offer the Floyd but you only could get it as a special order. So essentially you had strat type guitars that were being hacked up by the Floyd...when you did this there are problems with how the trem sits on the guitar and how you have to set it up to be in tune and intonated with the neck radius and action. So back then you could float it for higher action or rest it on the body for lower action. Vai has stated in interviews that when he had his strat that he turned into the Green Meanie, that the reason he first did the route under the FR was to get the action lower and a by product of that off course was that you could back bend. So that led to the whole recessed FR stuff later on. |
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Post by shreder75 on Oct 20, 2008 14:07:39 GMT -5
yeah, they were great..I even enjoyed them the whole trip home too lol I honestly am still enjoying them today. WTF? ? ;D BRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffff....oh God....... |
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 20, 2008 14:08:26 GMT -5
agreed mike...the first charvels had vintage trems...i meant when floyds first started appearing on the scene...
you're one knowledgeable SOB ;D
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Post by TJ on Oct 20, 2008 14:09:44 GMT -5
I honestly am still enjoying them today. WTF? ? ;D BRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffff....oh God....... Lisa we can't have Chet looking like that. It would ruin Christmas |
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Post by conan on Oct 20, 2008 14:09:54 GMT -5
Mike welcome to the boards man. Great meeting you this weekend. It was fun cutting up and hanging with all of you. I love that BC Rich. Those p/ups are killer in that thing. Great playing guitar!!! You should have gotten up and jammed at Chrismac's. What a great weekend that was. Went by way too quickly. I think next year we all need to get shirts made that say "Splawn" on the front and on the back "Got Brisket tacos?" Thanks and it was a total pleasure meeting you and sitting and listening to you play. Thanks, it really is a nice, old guitar. I was afraid to bring it because you know it is pink, but Shreder talked me into it. I am glad I did For sure next time I will jam, just alot of great players in the room no need to hear my crappy playing lol Certainly down with the shirt, too funny or maybe a shirt with DC and Bigfoot..Have you seen...? lol |
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...you have to remember the first chavels didn't have the FR it was a regular brass strat bridge..so essentially the guitar was set up like a strat..It wasn't until people started modding their Charvels that you saw them with the FR. Besides correct me if I am wrong..Kramer had the deal with FR so Charvel couldn't use them which is why the Kahler. They would offer the Floyd but you only could get it as a special order.