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Post by kirkster57 on Oct 12, 2007 8:20:13 GMT -5
Matt, thanks for the reply and the welcome. I will give it some break in time. I am running it in triode mode which I usnderstand results in earlier break up. I can coax pinch harmonics on various node points on the neck, but I am looking for more satuation. I should have bought a Nitro? I have another cab coming in a couple of weeks. I am getting a Diamond spec op cab w/ 4X12. it's rated @ 8 Ohms. For everything I read I was of the understadnign that the comp hase the same circuits as a QR, just only 50 watts. Don't get me wrong, I like the tone of the amp, its just not hot enough for me. I will keep tweaking. I am happy to be a member of the Spawn owners club. Kirk Kirk, Welcome to the club! Hope you're liking your new amp. As you well know, the Competition is only available DIRECT from Scott. It cannot be had through a dealer. I sort of let it slip in a moment of weakness that not just any Jabroni is qualified to own a Comp, and that Scott has an exhaustive questionnaire, FBI background search, as well as a rather lengthy interview process before deciding that a person is worthy of a Comp. As you can probably remember, the interview questions, insider info, and handshakes are TOP SECRET. I've been tortured by others on this forum to divulge the ritual, but so far have stonewalled these Jabronis and not leaked a thing. Just wanted to warn you. Anyway, enjoy, and also: YOU ARE RAD. But, since you didn't break the wax paper, you already knew that. |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 12, 2007 9:05:19 GMT -5
I think it just "feels" like it's not hot enough, probably compared to what you came from playing. I felt the same way when I first got mine, put a boost pedal in front of it, all that stuff. I wondered what all the hubub was about because it wasn't really melting my face. I came to the realization that it was me that wasn't so hot LOL! I played for a couple of months on OD1, really working on my technique, and now when I switch to OD2 it's plenty hot enough for me in any gear. The Splawn will put out what you put in - and if you play like me, the Splawn will tell you that you're sucking LOL.
I play pretty much at home, not a professional by any stretch of the imagination - so just so you know where I'm coming from. I played a Line6 previously and had patches with tons of gain and saturation - so it was a transition for me for sure.
I have found that at low volumes, which is what I seem to mostly play, just using the Master doesn't do it for me. I can suggest maybe a few things for low volume play: 1) You could always give it a clean boost. A Tubescreamer or something like that with the gain dailed in low and the level up high. 2) You could try a hotplate. They're spendy and opinions vary as to their affect. I have no problem with it. 3) My favorite: Volume pedal in the loop. Using a volume pedal or outboard effects unit with an adjustable volume output, and use this unit as sort of a 2nd (well, 1st) master volume. For 35 bucks I picked up a Morley unit which allowed me to run the Master at 10:00 and still play at low volume. There are several threads around using this trick. Look up Forum bro "Windsen". He has a great thread on this and using effects. I haven't used my Tubscreamer in about 6 months, and I love gain. I've never used any other effect, but am looking for a used Boss DD-2 if you know anyone.
I'd say give it some time. But, then again, you know what you like and what's right for you. If it isn't hot enough for you, the Nitro sounds like it should be. I had Nitro fever for about 3 days until I could get around to playing the Comp again. I don't have the Nitro fever anymore. The Comp has everything I need except for onboard tuner, which I should suggest to Scott, because evidently he listens to everything I say - even though I'm just an amateur hack with no musical resume whatsoever.
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Post by scoobrock on Oct 12, 2007 9:06:19 GMT -5
I thought the same thing for a few days with my QR, but it takes a little while to get it broken in. Once it does you should hear more gain, although it may not be as saturated as you want at that point for you. Did you try 3rd gear? What kind of tones were you trying to match? turn up the presence past noon to 2 or 3 maybe? that helps it get real 'in your face'.
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Post by scoobrock on Oct 12, 2007 9:09:10 GMT -5
I always go back to this, so apologies ahead of time:
If he adds the tuner are you going to up the price Matt?
The whole amp should be the tuner. If you are out of tune, it turns bright red, when you are in tune, it's bright green.
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Post by TJ on Oct 12, 2007 9:43:19 GMT -5
Kirk,
Spend some time with it. Try some different things with it. If you're a saturation junkie (Nothing wrong with that) throw a reverb pedal and a delay pedal in the loop and put a TS in front of the amp and you should be fine.
TJ
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 12, 2007 9:47:01 GMT -5
what was your previous amp?
in all honesty....i can sometimes see how people may not think that it's hot enough for certain applications...try running a tube screamer infront of it like i do sometimes....
sounds great and it gives you yet another sound...
i'm ceratin you'll be happy with it once you try this...
to my tastes, the tube screamer sounds the best over most other overdrives
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Post by scoobrock on Oct 12, 2007 9:54:21 GMT -5
I've wanted to try this as well...just a regular old TS9 guys?
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Post by TJ on Oct 12, 2007 9:58:10 GMT -5
I use an old 808 but it's the same thing really. I hardly ever use it this way but when I do I use either an old TS808 or a Carl Martin "Hot drive N boost" and just use the Boost side to get the level up and add a few more db's. Most the time I just run straight through the amp and use a volume pedal or just volume knob for leads. I like doing it that way cause you really have the amp singing at volume and as soon as you roll it back to full it just feels right. Woo hoo!!
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 12, 2007 10:00:10 GMT -5
I've wanted to try this as well...just a regular old TS9 guys? yeah....it RULES!!!! |
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Post by scoobrock on Oct 12, 2007 10:17:37 GMT -5
cool. I've been looking at that Keeley Blues driver mod...I like the sound of that pedal. The TS9 is cheaper though...
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Post by kirkster57 on Oct 12, 2007 11:46:32 GMT -5
I have a few amps I use. My main amp was a Engl Powerball. No shortage of gain there. I also own a VHT Pitbull CL50. I have a rack set up that includes a mesa 20/20 power amp and a voodu valve preamp. i have a Diamond Spec Op amp on the way. For clean I have a Fender pro tube reverb.
My big question is when Scott Splawn was doing the amp demos on video of the QR and Nitro, was he just using the quick rod with no effects or was he running overdrive or a distortion pedal in there?
Kirk
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 12, 2007 12:43:27 GMT -5
I have a few amps I use. My main amp was a Engl Powerball. No shortage of gain there. I also own a VHT Pitbull CL50. I have a rack set up that includes a mesa 20/20 power amp and a voodu valve preamp. i have a Diamond Spec Op amp on the way. For clean I have a Fender pro tube reverb. My big question is when Scott Splawn was doing the amp demos on video of the QR and Nitro, was he just using the quick rod with no effects or was he running overdrive or a distortion pedal in there? Kirk everything was just the amp on those clips |
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Post by Silverwulf on Oct 12, 2007 13:01:57 GMT -5
I was just the opposite when I tried the QR for the first time. I plugged in and thought "Wow, loads of gain that's usable". I was keeping the gain around noon on Gear 1 & 2, and this is coming from a guy who has used a '94 Recto for his primary amp for the last 4 years.
Kirk, what type of music do you play, what type of tones are you looking for, and what pickups are you using? We can get a better idea of how to help once we know what else you're using and what you're trying to achieve.
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Post by kirkster57 on Oct 12, 2007 13:14:46 GMT -5
I play mainly 80's 90's rock stuff. Dio, black sabbath, etc. I own close to 30 guitars with a variety of pickup types, but the usual combo are the Duncan JB/59 mix. When I switch from one gear ot the next I notice a slight increase in tone/bite of the amp but nothing really noticeable. Third gear tone wise is not much different than first gear. I own a THD Hot Plate and I ran the amp thru that last night and there was no huge tone difference either. I may just have to call Scott and talk to him about it. Kirk I was just the opposite when I tried the QR for the first time. I plugged in and thought "Wow, loads of gain that's usable". I was keeping the gain around noon on Gear 1 & 2, and this is coming from a guy who has used a '94 Recto for his primary amp for the last 4 years. Kirk, what type of music do you play, what type of tones are you looking for, and what pickups are you using? We can get a better idea of how to help once we know what else you're using and what you're trying to achieve. |
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Post by scoobrock on Oct 12, 2007 13:28:16 GMT -5
probably a dumb question, but did you kick in OD2 from the footpedal? I leave it on for the most part. Makes a big difference.
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