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Post by motrock on Mar 23, 2007 12:51:07 GMT -5
I agree that people have to give the amp a chance. My Quick Rod blows everything out of the water now. I had to experiment with speakers, pickups, guitar woods, cables, etc.....to get that the sound that I have. You have a foundation...build on it! I have officially owned mine a year as of this month. It took me a year to build on it. Before that I owned a Splawn Modded Marshall. So I have been with Splawn amps for about 2 1/2 years now!
I agree about Chubtones clips.....that was a great idea! It does show that the Splawn can stand up against any plexi style amp. I have both the Peacemaker and Quick Rod, and both are awesome. But the Quick Rod is by far my favorite of the 2. Its much warmer and can do more.....clean channel, high gain, old school plexi gain, etc. I don't need anything else!
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Post by Jammermatt on Mar 23, 2007 13:33:07 GMT -5
motrock, would you say owning a Splawn cab versus another (let's leave speakers out of the equation for now) is an integral part of the Splawn sound?
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Post by chuckabooboo on Mar 23, 2007 13:51:34 GMT -5
I agree that people have to give the amp a chance. My Quick Rod blows everything out of the water now. I had to experiment with speakers, pickups, guitar woods, cables, etc.....to get that the sound that I have. You have a foundation...build on it! I have officially owned mine a year as of this month. It took me a year to build on it. Before that I owned a Splawn Modded Marshall. So I have been with Splawn amps for about 2 1/2 years now! I agree about Chubtones clips.....that was a great idea! It does show that the Splawn can stand up against any plexi style amp. I have both the Peacemaker and Quick Rod, and both are awesome. But the Quick Rod is by far my favorite of the 2. Its much warmer and can do more.....clean channel, high gain, old school plexi gain, etc. I don't need anything else! Motrock, I agree 100% with ya...you have to spend time with it as well as have good foundation about the different variables at play. I'm finding out at this point of my QR ownership and playing maturity that I'm digging it without any effects. Just plug and play and the tonalities are endless. I have had my Splawn quickrod for a year and it's the whole banana; it can do it all. I've owned fenders, marshalls, randall, mesa boogies, 5150, 5150II, and RockMan Modules and my QuickRod is the one for me. The tonalities are so surpassed from anything that I've ever played through or even heard. It's a keeper in my book.  |
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Post by TJ on Mar 23, 2007 13:58:32 GMT -5
That last clip I posted was done completely dry. Not one effect in the loop or in front of the amp. Just plugged in and played. I've never, ever, ever in my life been able to do that with another amplifier to play rock music. I've owned countless amps such as 5150, JCM 800, Silver Jubilee, Trace Elliot, Fender rock pro, Carvin Legacy, Line 6, ADA MP-1, Fuchs, etc. etc. If only I found Splawn earlier I would have saved a ton of money.
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Post by shreder75 on Mar 23, 2007 14:35:05 GMT -5
hey TJ, I'm curious about the carvin legacy and the fuchs you owned...what did you think of them? just a couple amps I've ALWAYS heard about but never played..
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Post by 110db on Mar 23, 2007 14:40:33 GMT -5
Why do people get so defensive about their amp when someone else doesn't like it? It's not like they called your mother a slut or somethin'.
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Post by TJ on Mar 23, 2007 15:20:33 GMT -5
Why do people get so defensive about their amp when someone else doesn't like it? It's not like they called your mother a very *friendly* person or somethin'. I don't think anyone is getting defensive about it. Just sharing our opinions. But then again remember this is the Splawn fan forum. You're going to get these responses regardless. Shredder. The legacy and Fuchs are cool amps. Fuchs is more of a vintage sounding amp. Both just didn't do it for me. I had to push them or boost them with something external. The legacy to me was a very glassy sounding amp. It has it's good points but not enough to justify keeping it. The Fuchs is cool but it's really expensive and for that amount of cash it should just blow you away. To me it didn't. |
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Post by Patrick on Mar 23, 2007 16:17:46 GMT -5
That last clip I posted was done completely dry. Not one effect in the loop or in front of the amp. Just plugged in and played. I've never, ever, ever in my life been able to do that with another amplifier to play rock music. I've owned countless amps such as 5150, JCM 800, Silver Jubilee, Trace Elliot, Fender rock pro, Carvin Legacy, Line 6, ADA MP-1, Fuchs, etc. etc. If only I found Splawn earlier I would have saved a ton of money. Preach on Brother TJ!  |
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Post by shreder75 on Mar 26, 2007 7:29:49 GMT -5
Why do people get so defensive about their amp when someone else doesn't like it? It's not like they called your mother a very *friendly* person or somethin'. I don't think anyone is getting defensive about it. Just sharing our opinions. But then again remember this is the Splawn fan forum. You're going to get these responses regardless. Shredder. The legacy and Fuchs are cool amps. Fuchs is more of a vintage sounding amp. Both just didn't do it for me. I had to push them or boost them with something external. The legacy to me was a very glassy sounding amp. It has it's good points but not enough to justify keeping it. The Fuchs is cool but it's really expensive and for that amount of cash it should just blow you away. To me it didn't. cool, man...I was especially curious about the fuchs because they ARE so friggin' expenssive...i've seen them in my local-ish store..but for whatever reason, they're never hooked up or they're missing a power supply or I can't find an outlet (small store, lots of gear, hard to hook up anything..lol)..... |
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Post by craggin on Mar 26, 2007 8:26:02 GMT -5
Tone is so subjective...one person's "bite" is another's "harsh". One person's "dark" is another's "smooth".
When someone tells me my QR feels too stiff, I know they're too used to playing an amp that is extremely forgiving. Amps like VHTs and Splawns aren't forgiving...what you play is what you hear. I will say this...and I'll bet a bunch of you guys will back me up on this...my picking style/attack has become MUCH sharper since getting a Splawn.
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Post by chuckabooboo on Mar 26, 2007 12:52:50 GMT -5
Tone is so subjective...one person's "bite" is another's "harsh". One person's "dark" is another's "smooth". When someone tells me my QR feels too stiff, I know they're too used to playing an amp that is extremely forgiving. Amps like VHTs and Splawns aren't forgiving...what you play is what you hear. I will say this...and I'll bet a bunch of you guys will back me up on this...my picking style/attack has become MUCH sharper since getting a Splawn. AMEN, Brother..........  |
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Post by chubtone on Mar 31, 2007 2:13:21 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm glad you liked that comparison clip I did. Honestly, I was looking at these three Super Lead type amps I have and thinking, "do I really need 3 amps that only do one sound?" I was thinking about selling one of them so I wanted some opinions on which one should go. As a sorta joke I put the Splawn on there and then decided to include it in the comparison clip. That proves that the Splawn can hang with the real deal pretty well. If I had even bothered to turn the bass down a little on the Splawn, I'll bet it would have been nearly indistinguishable from a stock vintage Super Lead. Plus then you have all the other sounds the Splawn does.
Splawns have gotten very popular in the last year and because of this alot of people have bought them. Not everyone is going to like the same amps so some Splawns get sold and some of us can't understand what's wrong with those people.
I also understand what some of the guys are talking about when they call the Splawn dry or stiff feeling for leads. Some guys like that really smooth, endless sustainy, play legato lines for 7 minutes without picking type sound. If that is their style of playing, a Bogner or a Boogie or something along those lines is better for them. Those guys sell their Splawns. I personally like a more dry, articulate type lead tone where when I palm mute it's very percussive. I like doing legato lines with palm muting too and love the way it is so percussive and clear. When I pick, I like to literally hear a little bit of the pick hitting the string along with the note. The Splawn excels for this type of lead playing.
I also think some guys base their thoughts on tone on the lead tone first and foremost and then the rhythm sound is way, way secondary. I'm the opposite. I need a killer rhythm tone first and foremost. I like what I'm hearing from the Splawn. If I ever want that liquidy lead feel, a TS-9 or SD-1 work great too.
Sorry for the rambling. I deal with tone stuff all day long at work too. I have some guys that play the Splawn and know within 30 seconds that they are going to buy it. Yet, just the other day, I had a guy into similar stuff as me hear me play the amp through his vintage 4x12 greenback cab he was trading in. I literally played 3 chords, the G-C-D opening of "Somebody get me a Doctor" and stopped because the amp was on Gear 2 OD2 and eq'd weird. Not quite right for the VH tone. After I stopped to change settings he said, "I can tell that's not the amp for me". That just struck me as SO weird. His opinion of the amp had already been formed by these online forums and he didn't even give the amp a chance.
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Post by MetalHeart on Mar 31, 2007 8:32:49 GMT -5
I also think some guys base their thoughts on tone on the lead tone first and foremost and then the rhythm sound is way, way secondary. I'm the opposite. I need a killer rhythm tone first and foremost. I agree 100%. Alot of guitarists suck to me because they lack it in their rhythm playing and sound. They have killer lead tone but their rhythm is as flat as stale cola. |
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Post by Jammermatt on Mar 31, 2007 8:36:41 GMT -5
Chubtone,
Thanks for that breakdown. Not rambling at all. Your discussion on dry, stiff leads was interesting because that has been my take as well and I thought either I was weird or that my amp was weird (in my limited experience). But, the rhythm sound is to die for so go figger. An acquaintance is selling his brand new. He told me that during the wait he found something that just really ended up suiting him better. Thought the Splawn was a great product, but the amp he settled on (Engl) was more "him." Can't fault a dude for that.
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Post by Shawnee on Mar 31, 2007 9:01:00 GMT -5
That's why this forum is so great. Everyone actually knows what they are talking about. This is a great thread. I agree with Chubb. I was a Boogie player and the description of the Splawn is right on. It took me a while to get used to not having that singing "legato" sustain. The rhythm sound is incredible and my picking really has gotten cleaner from playing this amp.
I was so excited when it got the amp, I plugged it up and really didn't like it. After calling Scott we decided that G12H30's would help the mid spike that I didn't like (I had 65 watt Celestions). I grew up on Metalica and scooped mids! After I got H30's in my 4x12, I just started turning knobs until I heard what I was after. My settings are pretty weird compared to everyone else's though. Basically I have everything at 9:00. This amp is the best sounding dry amp I've ever heard. I run a Keeley boost pedal that adds some harmonics at lower volume but that's about it for now. I would like to get a little reverb and delay just to get that Van Halen 1 sound for fun. I have a bunch of pedals but I never seem to hook them up anymore!
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