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Post by icycanadianguy on Jan 14, 2013 9:16:18 GMT -5
I hope somebody here can help me. After watching the videos and reading the reviews I recently purchased a custom-color Streedrod combo and am having problems.
I guess the problem is that the amp sounds horrible. I mean really, really bad. It actually sounds so bad that it hurts the ears to listen to (even at low volume). I own other Marshall type amps (Shiva, OD100se+, Hot Cat 30) and I expected this amp to be right up there in terms to tone, but it really is not.
Frankly I am baffled. This amp sounds somewhat like the videos just much more low fidelity and compressed. All I can get from the amp is unpleasant mid-range mush.
I got the amp in late summer but have been avoiding dealing with this problem because I have other amps, but also because it makes me feel sick to my stomach to think how much I spent on this horrific sounding amp.
I wonder if anybody has any Streetrod settings they might suggest? I am not much of a tweaker and I realize that my problems with the amp my be user error (although I am skeptical). I have also wondered about a tube replacement. Any suggestions?
I REALLY want to like this amp and I am a huge fan of Marshall type tones - especially tones from 1980's metal. This amp should be perfect for me. But it really does sound like ass.
I wonder if I should have purchased a quickrod instead? I understood that a Streetrod was a low wattage quickrod type of amp but my Streetrod seems to have a lot less distortion than the quickrod. I hope somebody can help. I really do not want to have to try and sell this thing at a huge loss.
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Post by rocknrolla on Jan 14, 2013 10:39:35 GMT -5
What is your signal chain and settings?
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Post by sasquatch on Jan 14, 2013 12:12:58 GMT -5
I have a QR and zero experience with the SR. I can tell you that with the QR you want to try and get the channel master up around 9 o'clock or so, but not too much past 10 o'clock as the available volume boost for the solo mode begins to drop off as you get past 9 o'clock. If you don't get the channel master in that range, it can sound thin and fizzy.
General rule of thumb for the EQ is to set everything to noon (effectively the same as setting everything to 10 on a Marshall according to Scott) and work from there.
I'm using an attenuator (Ultimate Attenuator) with my QR so I can push the power section and maintain a useable volume w/o relying on the loop volume. The loop volume does not accomplish this, and IMO... pushing the power section is the best way to get the amp to come to life. That being said... all my EQ settings are right around 2 o'clock and gain channel master about 9-9:30. Gain at about 3 o'clock, 1st Gear - OD1. With this setup I can cover everything from 70's classic rock to 80's and modern higher gain stuff by using the volume knob on the guitar.
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Post by blcws6 on Jan 14, 2013 16:31:53 GMT -5
what they said above. Something seems fishy here as the Street rod should sound great right out of the gate with everything at NOON except the master volume of course.
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Post by rickshapiro on Jan 17, 2013 11:31:52 GMT -5
Is it possible to have you record something and post it. It would help to hear what you are hearing. I normally stay in Gear 1 with gain about 1:00. Start with mid, treble and presence fairly low and start paying around with treble and presence then bring up the mids.
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Post by bac425 on Jan 27, 2013 23:52:10 GMT -5
I have a QR and zero experience with the SR. I can tell you that with the QR you want to try and get the channel master up around 9 o'clock or so, but not too much past 10 o'clock as the available volume boost for the solo mode begins to drop off as you get past 9 o'clock. If you don't get the channel master in that range, it can sound thin and fizzy. General rule of thumb for the EQ is to set everything to noon (effectively the same as setting everything to 10 on a Marshall according to Scott) and work from there. I'm using an attenuator (Ultimate Attenuator) with my QR so I can push the power section and maintain a useable volume w/o relying on the loop volume. The loop volume does not accomplish this, and IMO... pushing the power section is the best way to get the amp to come to life. That being said... all my EQ settings are right around 2 o'clock and gain channel master about 9-9:30. Gain at about 3 o'clock, 1st Gear - OD1. With this setup I can cover everything from 70's classic rock to 80's and modern higher gain stuff by using the volume knob on the guitar. You have used both the Rivera Rock Crusher and Ultimate Attenuator correct? Which do you prefer? (I am assuming the Ultimate Attenuator) It would be nice to get a recommendation from a fellow Splawn user who has experience with both attenuators. |
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Post by rickshapiro on Feb 20, 2013 10:00:36 GMT -5
A recording would help so we can hear what you are hearing.
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Post by rickshapiro on Feb 20, 2013 10:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by joecobain88 on Feb 25, 2013 18:51:10 GMT -5
Honestly, preamp tubes make a HUGE difference, my best results have always come with JJ's in the preamp, power tubes also make a slight difference in my streetrod (and the Quickrod and Nitro heads I used to have, same story). JJ's warmed it up quite a bit. If you want a "cleaner" clean channel, try a JJ 5751 for the clean channel, I did, loving it!! Also put JJ's in the power section made it slightly warmer and little more controllable in the highs. My 2 cents...
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Post by rickshapiro on Feb 26, 2013 17:11:49 GMT -5
Honestly, preamp tubes make a HUGE difference, my best results have always come with JJ's in the preamp, power tubes also make a slight difference in my streetrod (and the Quickrod and Nitro heads I used to have, same story). JJ's warmed it up quite a bit. If you want a "cleaner" clean channel, try a JJ 5751 for the clean channel, I did, loving it!! Also put JJ's in the power section made it slightly warmer and little more controllable in the highs. My 2 cents... The 5751 are much lower gain, I would assume they clean up nice, how do they affect the gain channel. |
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Post by joecobain88 on Feb 27, 2013 16:43:53 GMT -5
I honestly didn't notice much difference in the gain channel, what little difference I did notice, I liked a lot!! Just lost a VERY small touch of gain. Used to run my gain at rough 1-2 o' clock, now I have it around 3 o' clock.
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Post by rocknrolla on Feb 27, 2013 16:56:09 GMT -5
I run a 5751 in the PI slot of my Nitro. I'm not sure what it technically does but it sounds and feels really good. It must invert the phases better than a regular 12AX7.  |
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Post by holyroller on Mar 26, 2013 21:30:08 GMT -5
5751 is a low voltage pre amp tube . They also recommend this tube to tame the orange amps. To me it defeats the purpose of the amp.
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Post by holyroller on Mar 26, 2013 21:32:02 GMT -5
Wish there was a mod to tame the treble back about 50 clicks . Lol wonder if there is a bright mod cap that you can snip like on the Marshall plexi heads,
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Post by xxxsoundxxx on Mar 28, 2013 7:36:24 GMT -5
Wish there was a mod to tame the treble back about 50 clicks . Lol wonder if there is a bright mod cap that you can snip like on the Marshall plexi heads, That's really odd. When I had a Streetrod I was changing tubes and doing everything I could to get MORE treble out of it! Funny how different guitars/ears have such different results! I had in the brightest tube set I could find. Maybe try JJ's. Nothing dulls an amp like those IMO. I usually stay away from them for that reason but again opinions will vary on that. I found very different treble results by turning down the treble to 9:00. It actually seemed to increase the highs that way. Turning up the treble seemed to mix the highs different somehow & buried them a little. You can really hear the effects of the sweep while playing. I read on a thread once that the treble affects the channel in a different way than most amps but I can't remember the specifics. |
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