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Post by richedie on Sept 6, 2011 12:30:09 GMT -5
Do any of you guys find the SR very stiff and unforgiving< something that really fights you when you play? I hated the days when i used to use an old Marshall JMP or JCM 800 because I felt like there was no margin for error ever and it was always a fight. My buddy says his Quickrod is the same way. Not that this is a bad thing, but some guys love this so it is personal.
My other worry is I don't have a cabinet that would really jive with a bright Marshall style amp. Since I have a Bogner Shiva and PWE Event Horizon, all my cabs have at least one V30, mostly V30/G12T-75 mixes and that is a very balanced and smooth mix with my amps, might be too much mids with the Streetrod. I have 4 cabs right now that work with everythig I own even if I get another Boogie and can't really be buying a new cab just to accomodate the SR.
What you guys think?
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Post by TuskerKevin on Sept 6, 2011 12:56:25 GMT -5
Do any of you guys find the SR very stiff and unforgiving< something that really fights you when you play? I hated the days when i used to use an old Marshall JMP or JCM 800 because I felt like there was no margin for error ever and it was always a fight. My buddy says his Quickrod is the same way. Not that this is a bad thing, but some guys love this so it is personal. My other worry is I don't have a cabinet that would really jive with a bright Marshall style amp. Since I have a Bogner Shiva and PWE Event Horizon, all my cabs have at least one V30, mostly V30/G12T-75 mixes and that is a very balanced and smooth mix with my amps, might be too much mids with the Streetrod. I have 4 cabs right now that work with everythig I own even if I get another Boogie and can't really be buying a new cab just to accomodate the SR. What you guys think? Hmmm, I don't really find my SR to be too unforgiving. In fact, I find it more forgiving than my QR. IMHO |
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Post by richedie on Sept 6, 2011 13:08:59 GMT -5
Thanks Kevin, that is good to know! So maybe it is closer to my Shiva and Event Horizon in feel. Good to know.
I see you also use a mix of Governor speakers which to me are like Eminence V30s, that helps me think I could use my V30/T75 cabs with the SR! Some of my favorite Splawn clips on the Splawn site were recorded with the Celestio n V30/G12T-75 mix because I find those two together when broken in are very warm!
Again, thanks....I was considering a Mesa MarkV for something very different but in the end I am never happy with the tones I get nor the fell with leads. To me I prefer the feel and sound of leads I get out of Marshall, Bogner or Soldano type amps.
What style music you play?
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Post by TuskerKevin on Sept 6, 2011 13:22:06 GMT -5
My band plays "party rock"....everything from Bowling from Soup to Finger 11 to Blink 182 etc...we throw in some occasional VH, Sublime and AIC too. It is fun when it is going well, but my bass player just quit so I am (again) searching for a new member of the band....argh! oh well! I do not necessarily love everything we play, but it works in the clubs around here.
How about you?
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Post by richedie on Sept 6, 2011 13:44:02 GMT -5
I am trying to get a new part cover and part original band going...it is hard to do at 40 years old when we all now have families and careers....but I am trying....we do some of what you do but try to mix in more classic rock, 80s and 90s as well. I hope the Streetrod can handle it. Some of the stuff we cover was originally recorded with Mesas, Dual Recs, etc.
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Post by speedemon on Sept 6, 2011 15:48:53 GMT -5
Hi Richedie,
I suppose the Quickrod is "tighter" than some amps, but for me VHT Pitbull is the tightest amp. Breaking in the speakers will "loosen" the sound a tad, but really, you need to have your technique somewhat in order to enjoy the Splawn for shredding. The speaker combination is a matter of taste; I found your combination rather bright souding, but some people love it.
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Post by xxxsoundxxx on Sept 6, 2011 22:57:26 GMT -5
My rectifier was stiff and no good for leads as was my Krank. My 2007 quickrod was stiff too. My streetrod on the other hand is not.Scott said this (more saturated?)trait is inherent in all newer splawn quickrods also. Usually amps that are forgiving do not cut and have little fatness & tone. You can't have both.A line six amp is VERY forgiving and easy to play, sound great at first ,then you realize it lacks what I call 3D.
Many people are so used to saturated easy to play "pedal tone" that a quality tone like a SPLAWN seems hard to play. Once you see the light you realize the fatness,feel,and dynamics that pedal tone amps don't have. I think I could plug my streetrod into any cab and it would do fine. Playing a splawn will make you a better player and not let you slop through playing undistinguishable over distorted crap. If you want to do that save your money and get a line 6. If you want killer pro tone,get a splawn.
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Post by richedie on Sept 7, 2011 20:32:32 GMT -5
Yep, Scott said the Streetrod will still kill through a V30 cab like any good Marshall! Said just turn down the mids and presence!  I also find I do not like mixing speakers! I have been messing around and hearing stuff I don't like, unbalanced.....I am back to straight up speakers 412 - Celestion Lynchbacks (high powered Greenbacks) Bogner 412 - V30s (Hellatones) THD - Celestion G12k-100 Mesa 112 - EVM12L |
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Post by jkrguitar on Sept 8, 2011 1:31:03 GMT -5
I kind of feel that a bunch of amps have too much slop with a fairly health dose of gain, where it sounds muffled and you have to crank the high end up you get buzzfest trying to clean it up....you end up losing the natural sound of the guitar....if your technique is good that would actually make it harder to play.
I'm liking the splawn sound for that(from clips),the new stuff I read about here that the SR brings tonewise really sounds good to me:)
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Post by richedie on Sept 8, 2011 6:36:38 GMT -5
Can you take the SR all the way up in third gear without too much slop or loss in clarity? Not that I need all that gain, it is nice when amps have lots of usable gain.
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Post by bigjilm on Sept 8, 2011 13:44:30 GMT -5
My Street Rod doesn't seem unforgiving or overly tight to me, neither does my Nitro.
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Post by richedie on Sept 9, 2011 20:10:16 GMT -5
I am getting one! Also going to get an OS12 with Celestion G12-65s!
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Post by richedie on Sept 10, 2011 21:05:32 GMT -5
I really like when leads come out real thick and chewy like Bonamasa, or Cantrell or who is the guy in Gov't Mule, Warren Haynes? Those are thick, rich and chewy Bogners, Marshall and Soldanos.
The Splawns seem a little leaner. The notes are like molasses
Just because an amp is unforgiving does not mean it will not cut or be fat. Bogner are full and fat and still cut.
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Post by benhur on Sept 13, 2011 20:07:51 GMT -5
my QR is super tight, and really unforgiving. i love it, keeps me in shape. i like tight palm mutes and the nuances of a tight guitar part. to me, every note matters. i have loads of gain with my gain at around noon. the QR is a very "clear" amp, imho. the boogie rectifiers are very gainy and buzz-sawy, again, imho. that being said, you can get chewy loads of gain and head for buzzsaw on a QR and you can dial in a boogie to sound great. it's all in your ears and what you want to play/hear.
i've heard numbers of people say the splawn stuff isn't versatile. BALONEY. there's ALOT of great tones in there, ya just gotta experiment a little!
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Post by camsdad on Sept 14, 2011 2:46:34 GMT -5
Came home for the weekend and found out that Cam is in a new band ! So off I trot Sat. morning to take him and his gear to the new Jam room with the new band.
So when I come back 8hrs later to pick him up, I meet the new lads and I asked how was practice / Jam etc.
This is their exact words - "That Amp is Awesome, the exact sound we have been looking for !"
They never heard of the splawn amp before but THEY KNOW all about it now.
So here's another thing the QR can do.......Impress new band mates ! and secure your position in the Group ! ;D
I am the best Dad ever hey ;D
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I also find I do not like mixing speakers! I have been messing around and hearing stuff I don't like, unbalanced.....I am back to straight up speakers