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Post by fdesalvo on May 11, 2011 10:46:28 GMT -5
Hi, SR peeps. I've already seen the "QR or SR?" thread, but it didn't resolve all my concerns.
I play lead in an original rock band and was looking to replace my MKIV rig with something way less complicated, more consistent, and more organic (I hate that buzz word, btw). I’m done with the tone of my rig changing every time I look at it.
I have been pretty much sold on the QR, but honestly, I never get to turn my Boog up past 3 on the master volume – maybe 4 if I have it running @ 35 watts and at these settings, it’s just not in its sweet spot at all -not even close.
This leads me to believe the QR may be too much amp for me. Though we do play large outdoor venues occasionally, we are mic’d probably 95% of the time. What’s the point of all this juice??
Having said that, what limitations have you come up against when using your SR in live settings? I’m hoping clean headroom is decent and the bottom end doesn’t flop around like my ex’s tuchis on a trampoline. Now -
…we don’t play nu-metal or any music that would necessitate that “recto” tone, but I do palm mute the lower strings frequently and enjoy a tight bottom end.
I appreciate any insight!
Frank the Tank
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Post by speedemon on May 11, 2011 16:41:06 GMT -5
Well,
it doesn't have a Fender clean sound. you need to provide your own effects. You can't switch gears with the footswitch. I don't know if it's a weakness as much as a weirdness, but the volume is max at noon on the knob, so you need to make very small adjustments in the knob to find your level.
My personal preference is to select a gear with the gain way up, then use the guitar knobs and pickup selector to vary my sounds. Nothing like a good Alnico II pkup at your side!
Have fun!
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Post by fdesalvo on May 11, 2011 17:33:11 GMT -5
As long as she changes channels via fs, that's fine  . I have some research to do for sure. |
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Post by speedemon on May 11, 2011 20:54:43 GMT -5
The footswitch gives you the clean and dirty channels, the solo volume, and OD 1 - 2. So your 3 buttons are "clean" "solo" "od" my best guess on the OD is an eq shelf, but to my ears its just more "metal".
Bottom line on this amp, if you are a Marshall guy and wanted a JMP to do more, particularly metal, or an 80s metal guy; Splawn is the ticket, period.
I have had my QR a little over a year, and after some tweaks (12ax7s and speakers), the only thing I am "lacking" is opportunities to plug into it.
Good luck!
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Post by fdesalvo on May 12, 2011 1:37:39 GMT -5
^im putting my order for a sr head Tuesday. Thanks for the input!
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Post by snappinnecks on May 12, 2011 8:40:19 GMT -5
Hi, SR peeps. I've already seen the "QR or SR?" thread, but it didn't resolve all my concerns. I play lead in an original rock band and was looking to replace my MKIV rig with something way less complicated, more consistent, and more organic (I hate that buzz word, btw). I’m done with the tone of my rig changing every time I look at it. I have been pretty much sold on the QR, but honestly, I never get to turn my Boog up past 3 on the master volume – maybe 4 if I have it running @ 35 watts and at these settings, it’s just not in its sweet spot at all -not even close. This leads me to believe the QR may be too much amp for me. Though we do play large outdoor venues occasionally, we are mic’d probably 95% of the time. What’s the point of all this juice?? The point of the juice is simple. Tube saturation. Splawns now have a volume in the loop that Scott designed from numerous requests of owners needing saturation at low volumes. You can find the sweet spot and then turn things down a bit to a lower volume. Kinda like attenuation, but different. Make sense. You can't get a combo to sound like a head/4X12cab. If that is what you are used to then I would get a Quickrod. |
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Post by sasquatch on May 12, 2011 10:07:07 GMT -5
If switching gears via foot switch is of interest it can be done. I've set my QR up to do this with an external switching system consisting of a programmable switcher and midi controller. Mine is rack based, but they offer floor based units as well. It works well for me since I've found my favorite rhythm sound in 1st Gear/OD2. When I kick in the lead boost I have the amp set up to jump to 2nd Gear/OD2 for a little more gain in addition to volume.
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Post by fdesalvo on May 12, 2011 10:59:49 GMT -5
I meant - what's the point of me having an 85w amp when my volume has never gone past 3 on the master - I've got 4 6L6s cooking when I'm only running the amp at 30% of its potential. More than this, I enjoy the MKIV when it's running at ~40% and I never get to open it up to that point. I want something lower wattage to give me more power tube compression and dynamics at the same volume. I'm getting the head version and will try to resist the tempation to become a speaker tweaker. Hopefully I won't keep flopping between the two amps lol. Hi, SR peeps. I've already seen the "QR or SR?" thread, but it didn't resolve all my concerns. I play lead in an original rock band and was looking to replace my MKIV rig with something way less complicated, more consistent, and more organic (I hate that buzz word, btw). I’m done with the tone of my rig changing every time I look at it. I have been pretty much sold on the QR, but honestly, I never get to turn my Boog up past 3 on the master volume – maybe 4 if I have it running @ 35 watts and at these settings, it’s just not in its sweet spot at all -not even close. This leads me to believe the QR may be too much amp for me. Though we do play large outdoor venues occasionally, we are mic’d probably 95% of the time. What’s the point of all this juice?? The point of the juice is simple. Tube saturation. Splawns now have a volume in the loop that Scott designed from numerous requests of owners needing saturation at low volumes. You can find the sweet spot and then turn things down a bit to a lower volume. Kinda like attenuation, but different. Make sense. You can't get a combo to sound like a head/4X12cab. If that is what you are used to then I would get a Quickrod. |
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Post by snappinnecks on May 12, 2011 13:13:43 GMT -5
I meant - what's the point of me having an 85w amp when my volume has never gone past 3 on the master - I've got 4 6L6s cooking when I'm only running the amp at 30% of its potential. More than this, I enjoy the MKIV when it's running at ~40% and I never get to open it up to that point. I want something lower wattage to give me more power tube compression and dynamics at the same volume. I'm getting the head version and will try to resist the tempation to become a speaker tweaker. Hopefully I won't keep flopping between the two amps lol. Hi, SR peeps. I've already seen the "QR or SR?" thread, but it didn't resolve all my concerns. I play lead in an original rock band and was looking to replace my MKIV rig with something way less complicated, more consistent, and more organic (I hate that buzz word, btw). I’m done with the tone of my rig changing every time I look at it. I have been pretty much sold on the QR, but honestly, I never get to turn my Boog up past 3 on the master volume – maybe 4 if I have it running @ 35 watts and at these settings, it’s just not in its sweet spot at all -not even close. This leads me to believe the QR may be too much amp for me. Though we do play large outdoor venues occasionally, we are mic’d probably 95% of the time. What’s the point of all this juice?? The point of the juice is simple. Tube saturation. Splawns now have a volume in the loop that Scott designed from numerous requests of owners needing saturation at low volumes. You can find the sweet spot and then turn things down a bit to a lower volume. Kinda like attenuation, but different. Make sense. You can't get a combo to sound like a head/4X12cab. If that is what you are used to then I would get a Quickrod. Here is an example of how versatile a newer Splawn head can be www.youtube.com/user/snappinnecks7?feature=mhee#p/u/0/VmkEJDD-3lEI believe I used the loop volume or the volume slider on the EQ pedal to cut down on the volume. I cranked the full 100watts into the Isolation cab with a 75 watt speaker in it with no issues. Really good saturation and I wasn't using any boost or other unseen tricks/pedals/effects that are sometimes used out of site to promote an amp or equipment. My gut always tells me to go with the amp that will satisfy my needs, but will also work in a larger environment also. I've even used a Splawn to play worship songs where stage volume had to be in the mousefart range or almost silent to not offend the old folks and it still rocked. So in short the Quickrod has no limitations. Specific switching options however could be an issue depending on what you are looking for. I hope our advice helps you make the right decision. You have made the correct decision by choosing Splawn. Great amps, great service, and tone. Scott and co conduct themselves with integrity.  |
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Post by fdesalvo on May 12, 2011 13:31:00 GMT -5
^thanks
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Post by shredheadjhj on May 12, 2011 20:49:44 GMT -5
You do have a tough decision. Even an SR cranked probably won't sound as big as a QR, but I'm sure you will get much more saturation out of a SR. If the SR head was quite a bit cheaper it would be a no brainer, but with the prices being so ridiculously close I may go for the QR... You can call Scott anytime. He usually answers the phone when I call, but sometimes it's Josh who answers.
My general take based on what I've heard:
SR: more power/pre tube saturation, tighter, a tad more modern sounding due to more preamp saturation, better at low volumes
QR: BIGGER sounding, more headroom, better to drive a 4x12 in loud gigs (but able to do tiny gigs using the FX loop volume)
Yeah, call Scott. And I recommend ordering from Blues City Music. Scott will tell you this. Another good place to order from is Rebel Amps. Scott will recommend both these guys, and you'll get your amp faster.
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. I have some research to do for sure.
