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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 1, 2009 11:08:10 GMT -5
I would like to give a shout out to my new peeps in Club Competition. I have traded my still beloved Quick Rod to a friend for a Competition since the Compy will be a little more practical for my needs at church. I always ran my QR at 50 watts in the first place. I loved and will miss my QR's clean channel, but I find myself staying on the overdrive channel and using my guitar's volume knob to clean things up most of the time. The plus side for me is having the Compy's half power Triode mode as an option for more subtle playing situations like backing an acoustic guitar during communion. It will be great for late night practicing also. The ability to footswitch between two gears is another plus for me. I am trying to keep my church rig somewhat small, and this keeps from needing a switching system to change gears on the fly.
The sound between the two amps is almost identical to my ears. The Compy has all of the QR tone and smoothness that I love with maybe a little more hair on the notes. I was expecting the Competition to have more treble/high end presence, but it actually seems to have a bassier voicing. The Compy's Tridoe mode in first gear/OD1 is GREAT for blues playing with my strats volume knob backed down some. My next amp will probably be another Quick Rod and I may A/B between the Compy in triode mode and the QR at half power. I could also set the QR in 3rd gear, leave the Compy at full 50 watt power, and footswitch between 1st and 2nd gears. This would also give me my clean channel back. Scott's amps blow away everything out there IMHO, and I can not imagine playing anything else. A Super Stock would be cool to have someday as well. God only knows. Nitros sound AMAZING, but the QR/Compy voicing REALLY works for me.
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Post by joelaroint on Oct 1, 2009 11:24:35 GMT -5
Glad to have ya!!! My thoughts have been straying to a super stock as well( my wife says I better start taking some beano for my case of G.A.S.) A/B baby!! If I would have known that half power on kt88's sounded so good, I would have went for the 50w supercomp.  |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 1, 2009 14:24:18 GMT -5
Hey JD,
Welcome to the club. The Compy is really an interesting beast. The differences you described between the Compy and the QR were almost exact opposite of my findings. Which concludes to me that the Compy is probably very particular to speaker configs and personal touch. I'm sure what you are hearing is what you're hearing, but is just different that what I was hearing. I only played through a QR for a couple of hours though.
I have found that in general the QR rules of conventional wisdom simply don't apply to the Comp. I find the Comp to sound best with Celestion Greenbacks through an open back cab (thanks Ayton) with the bass cranked up and the treble and presence backed off. Furthermore, I found the Eminence Splawn speakers (or at least the Big Blocks) were just too stiff and aggressive for the Comp in a 2x12 cab (for my liking at least).
Ayton put me on the idea of an open back. Then when I had my cab re-wired for new speaks and quick-disconnects, the tech who did the work (and seems to have a great ear as well), also mentioned he thought it sounded better with the back slightly open. He thought it was flubby closed - almost like there was too much back pressure (this was with the BBs). Since then, I haven't really had a chance to A/B closed versus open since I've been too busy and I am in constant fear of tinnitus, but hopefully can at some point.
My new band is having it's first gig tomorrow night. This will be the 1st gig with the Greenbacks and the open back. I'm a little nervous about that. We won't be miking the amp, and it's a fairly small place. Part of me wants to put the closed back on since that's how Scott designed it. But, the other part of me says "let 'er rip" and see what happens. I think I'll bring both backs and a powered screwdriver and maybe experiment a little since we are playing all nite.
Just interesting is all I'm saying.
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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 1, 2009 15:30:29 GMT -5
Hey JD, Welcome to the club. The Compy is really an interesting beast. The differences you described between the Compy and the QR were almost exact opposite of my findings. Which concludes to me that the Compy is probably very particular to speaker configs and personal touch. I'm sure what you are hearing is what you're hearing, but is just different that what I was hearing. I only played through a QR for a couple of hours though. I have found that in general the QR rules of conventional wisdom simply don't apply to the Comp. I find the Comp to sound best with Celestion Greenbacks through an open back cab (thanks Ayton) with the bass cranked up and the treble and presence backed off. Furthermore, I found the Eminence Splawn speakers (or at least the Big Blocks) were just too stiff and aggressive for the Comp in a 2x12 cab (for my liking at least). Ayton put me on the idea of an open back. Then when I had my cab re-wired for new speaks and quick-disconnects, the tech who did the work (and seems to have a great ear as well), also mentioned he thought it sounded better with the back slightly open. He thought it was flubby closed - almost like there was too much back pressure (this was with the BBs). Since then, I haven't really had a chance to A/B closed versus open since I've been too busy and I am in constant fear of tinnitus, but hopefully can at some point. My new band is having it's first gig tomorrow night. This will be the 1st gig with the Greenbacks and the open back. I'm a little nervous about that. We won't be miking the amp, and it's a fairly small place. Part of me wants to put the closed back on since that's how Scott designed it. But, the other part of me says "let 'er rip" and see what happens. I think I'll bring both backs and a powered screwdriver and maybe experiment a little since we are playing all nite. Just interesting is all I'm saying. I have played the QR and the Compy through the same gear and cabinet and they sound pretty much the same to my ears. I have ran JJ EL34's in both amps and they sound real similar. They play and respond to pick attack, guitars and gear pretty much the same also IMHO. The Compy does seem to have a little more hair to it. I guess that is what the guys mean when they say it sounds like an angry QR. It cleans up nicely with my strats volume knob, and the Compy is a VERY warm sounding amp like my QR. I have a 2 x 12 Avatar closed back cabinet loaded with one V30 and a Celestion G12H Heritage speaker. |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 1, 2009 18:08:22 GMT -5
I'm using JJs also. I think tonally I liked the Mullards, but so far the JJs have lasted much much longer.
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Post by Ayton(e) on Oct 1, 2009 19:41:20 GMT -5
I would like to give a shout out to my new peeps in Club Competition. I have traded my still beloved Quick Rod to a friend for a Competition since the Compy will be a little more practical for my needs at church. I always ran my QR at 50 watts in the first place. I loved and will miss my QR's clean channel, but I find myself staying on the overdrive channel and using my guitar's volume knob to clean things up most of the time. The plus side for me is having the Compy's half power Triode mode as an option for more subtle playing situations like backing an acoustic guitar during communion. It will be great for late night practicing also. The ability to footswitch between two gears is another plus for me. I am trying to keep my church rig somewhat small, and this keeps from needing a switching system to change gears on the fly. The sound between the two amps is almost identical to my ears. The Compy has all of the QR tone and smoothness that I love with maybe a little more hair on the notes. I was expecting the Competition to have more treble/high end presence, but it actually seems to have a bassier voicing. The Compy's Tridoe mode in first gear/OD1 is GREAT for blues playing with my strats volume knob backed down some. My next amp will probably be another Quick Rod and I may A/B between the Compy in triode mode and the QR at half power. I could also set the QR in 3rd gear, leave the Compy at full 50 watt power, and footswitch between 1st and 2nd gears. This would also give me my clean channel back. Scott's amps blow away everything out there IMHO, and I can not imagine playing anything else. A Super Stock would be cool to have someday as well. God only knows. Nitros sound AMAZING, but the QR/Compy voicing REALLY works for me.  Very glad to have you! I remember you were floating this idea, but I thought you'd given up on it ages ago. If you have the chance, try bypassing the loop when using Triode — stops it getting too warm and soft with the added vol attenuation of your proccessor/pedals. It is amazing how Triode will sound sweet all the way down to zero. You can genuinely play an unattenuated Splawn late at night if you want, using this mode. Really psyched that you've joined us. You know my videos were always better than those QR losers. ;D |
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Post by Ayton(e) on Oct 1, 2009 19:42:15 GMT -5
Ayton put me on the idea of an open back. And Greenbacks you slut! |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 1, 2009 20:52:45 GMT -5
Ayton put me on the idea of an open back. And Greenbacks you slut! ... and quick-disconnects. |
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Post by Ayton(e) on Oct 1, 2009 21:55:58 GMT -5
... and quick-disconnects. I was being gracious. (Don't think I've missed how you've developer a bit of a Sean Connery brogue, too.) |
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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 1, 2009 22:12:35 GMT -5
... and quick-disconnects. I was being gracious. (Don't think I've missed how you've developer a bit of a Sean Connery brogue, too.) I am still working on the Sean Connery thing myself. My wife finds it a little annoying at times, but......she'll probably get use to it. ;D LOVE the amp! |
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Post by Ayton(e) on Oct 1, 2009 22:51:42 GMT -5
Oh and how can we have been so lax —
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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 1, 2009 23:26:27 GMT -5
Oh and how can we have been so lax — I will need to update my avatar. The amp is a standard black plexi style affair just like my QR. Works for me! |
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Post by Jammermatt on Oct 2, 2009 1:10:28 GMT -5
I model my accent after that cute little gecko on TV. Not sure if he's Scottish, British, Aussie, whatever. But, I find that the ladies do respond.
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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 2, 2009 13:03:58 GMT -5
I model my accent after that cute little gecko on TV. Not sure if he's Scottish, British, Aussie, whatever. But, I find that the ladies do respond. The Gecko.....Huh? I had not thought about that one. |
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Post by jesusdriven on Oct 2, 2009 17:12:43 GMT -5
Hey JD, Welcome to the club. The Compy is really an interesting beast. The differences you described between the Compy and the QR were almost exact opposite of my findings. Which concludes to me that the Compy is probably very particular to speaker configs and personal touch. I'm sure what you are hearing is what you're hearing, but is just different that what I was hearing. I only played through a QR for a couple of hours though. I have found that in general the QR rules of conventional wisdom simply don't apply to the Comp. I find the Comp to sound best with Celestion Greenbacks through an open back cab (thanks Ayton) with the bass cranked up and the treble and presence backed off. Furthermore, I found the Eminence Splawn speakers (or at least the Big Blocks) were just too stiff and aggressive for the Comp in a 2x12 cab (for my liking at least). Ayton put me on the idea of an open back. Then when I had my cab re-wired for new speaks and quick-disconnects, the tech who did the work (and seems to have a great ear as well), also mentioned he thought it sounded better with the back slightly open. He thought it was flubby closed - almost like there was too much back pressure (this was with the BBs). Since then, I haven't really had a chance to A/B closed versus open since I've been too busy and I am in constant fear of tinnitus, but hopefully can at some point. My new band is having it's first gig tomorrow night. This will be the 1st gig with the Greenbacks and the open back. I'm a little nervous about that. We won't be miking the amp, and it's a fairly small place. Part of me wants to put the closed back on since that's how Scott designed it. But, the other part of me says "let 'er rip" and see what happens. I think I'll bring both backs and a powered screwdriver and maybe experiment a little since we are playing all nite. Just interesting is all I'm saying. Was the QR you played through set at full power? I always played mine at half power and biased it at 50 watts. That is probably why my QR and Compy sound pretty much the same to me. |
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