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Post by ecpat5150 on Mar 26, 2009 3:00:20 GMT -5
i've been a splawn player for a few years now.
i started out with a splawn modded plexi i bought used off of ebay. i eventually upgraded to a pro mod and matching splawn cab.
i'm in a touring band now and would love to help promote splawn as much as i can. whether that be with banners at the merch table, stickers, t-shirts, business cards, etc.
does anyone carry an endorsement from splawn?
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Post by shredheadjhj on Mar 26, 2009 5:15:46 GMT -5
i've been a splawn player for a few years now. i started out with a splawn modded plexi i bought used off of ebay. i eventually upgraded to a pro mod and matching splawn cab. i'm in a touring band now and would love to help promote splawn as much as i can. whether that be with banners at the merch table, stickers, t-shirts, business cards, etc. does anyone carry an endorsement from splawn? Talk to Dirrty Craig. He drunkingly floats around here & is a Splawn endorser.
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Mar 26, 2009 6:41:04 GMT -5
No, I don't think there is a such thing as a "Splawn Endorsement" at this time. I love to talk amps and I love to send Scott business because I love his products and service.. but I'm not "endorsed" nor is anyone else to my knowledge.
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Post by shredheadjhj on Mar 26, 2009 7:51:40 GMT -5
My mistake. I saw you on the Splawn site, so I figured you were labeled as an "endorser". I'm kind of loose with the meaning maybe.
"Endorsers" don't necessarily get free gear from the companies they endorse most of the time. If they do get free gear, they definitely normally do not get pay checks or anything like that because they're seen using the gear. Endorsing companies simply helps to get the "endorser" more exposure in probably 95% of cases.
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Mar 26, 2009 13:33:01 GMT -5
I think its awesome that they wanted my picture on there..but I wouldn't;t want to misrepresent myself as an endorsee unless Scott said otherwise.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Mar 26, 2009 14:27:34 GMT -5
I've thought about this recently too. I have been playing Splawn at gigs exclusively for 3 years now. I feel like I work for Splawn in a way because I am always answering questions and spreading the gospel of Splawn, lol. I just figured there was no endorsements of any sort so I never really bothered to ask Scott.
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Post by shreder75 on Mar 26, 2009 16:01:55 GMT -5
Craig is just another pretty face to have on the main page =)
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Post by mitch on Mar 30, 2009 16:24:24 GMT -5
It's funny that this came up. Two buddy's of mine just bought Nitros based on my gospel of all things Splawn. They seemed to think that I should be endorsed, but I believe if the product is this good, it needs no endorser's. It speaks for itself.
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Post by drweller on Apr 8, 2009 15:27:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't start talking endorsement until you:
1) are rockin' out in front of 5-50K folks nightly; or, 2) get serious regular print in the major guitar mags; or, 3) get a national recording contract; or, 4) get national airplay/video play (indy or major); or, 5) have your own int'l thing via online distribution (teaching website, huge myspace-esque following, tons of downloads/hits, etc); or, 6) get regular studio work playing on major label recordings (or indy that land Top 40); or, 7) land a house band gig for one of the TV karaoke shows; or, 8) etc.
Not the be-all end-all list, but that's the idea. You need to have something to bring to the table as a position of mass influence...and a solid press kit documenting your situation/presence.
Endorsements generally range from % discounts to freebys to paid contracts for use in promotions/clinics/etc based on your career level at the time. The smaller the item cost, the more likely you'll get an earlier career endorsement (i.e. pickups, strings, etc). When you start talking guitars, amps, etc. you typically need to be a little further along the artist development path - either as a very large regional presence or national. And, it's easier to get your foot in the door with a more expensive product manufacturer (i.e. amp/guitar) if you have already acquired a few equally important but lower cost product manufacturer endorsements (i.e. pickup and effects before guitars or amps).
Or, you just have to know someone that knows someone and then none of the above matters. ;D
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Apr 8, 2009 23:42:38 GMT -5
um,, DW.. thats the craziest post I've ever read. I think your watching too much MTV.
There are literally thousands of amazing players who have endorsements who don't meet any of your criteria. I mean Nickelback fits your criteria...?
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Post by drweller on Apr 9, 2009 1:02:22 GMT -5
um,, DW.. thats the craziest post I've ever read. I think your watching too much MTV. There are literally thousands of amazing players who have endorsements who don't meet any of your criteria. I mean Nickelback fits your criteria...? Naw, not really. Majority of the previous post criteria was based on comments out of the mouths of A&R reps and owners from a bunch o'different companies...big, small, boutique, mass produced, high dollar, low dollar utilities. I'm sure most those thousands would meet one or more of the items in the non-exhaustive list in some fashion...to that end, here are some "nobody" players-in-obscurity examples: Rippin' kid from outta nowhere on another continent gets a ton of interest via youtube and a forum, likes, let's say Kramer guitars, and bam, gets an endorsement. Meets a couple of the criteria. Indy rocker dude from the midwest gets national airplay and interest from several major labels along with a lot of press, and bam, gets pickup/pedal/etc endorsements. Meets a couple of the criteria. Indy dude tours his ass off in obscurity, gets song placements on MTV real world and other media, and bam, gets all kinds of endorsements. Meets a couple of the criteria. No-name guitarist #1 gets a couple artist side-man gigs, plays for 5-500K folks per show for a couple summers, and bam, gets guitar, amp, pedal, string, etc endorsements. Meets a couple of the criteria. No-name guitarist #2 comes out of nowhere as a finalist in a publicity "be-our-new-guitarist" contest, and, even though it didn't go anywhere, bam, gets guitar, pedal, etc endorsements because of the press. Meets a couple of the criteria. Guitar player working a session in a studio in Nashville has a heavy hitter walk in and ask him if he needs anything...and bam, he has a freeby endorsement from a kick-ass high-end boutique amp company. Meets a couple of the criteria...and a big part being the last one (know someone). There are always exceptions to the rule - but as the general business side goes, if the companies aren't initiating first contact, and the player is initiating the initial request, they'd better be in some position of influence - folks see you/hear you pickin' and the gear is seen/heard by many folks in one way/another. None of those above are rock star (i.e. Nickleback) examples. Point is most manufacturers want endorsees who come calling to be further along their career than playing a couple local clubs and turning local folks in town/couple towns on to the gear. Now, not every manufacturer is that way, I can think of some examples to that end as well, but most will tell you - call again when you're doing X, Y, Z. Never hurts to ask, but be prepared before you do (press kit w/pics, bio, press, reviews, video/audio, etc.). ---------- Unrelated but this came to mind w/the "criteria" concept and made me chuckle...a major label A&R rep, after hearing the material, once asked, before any other discussion took place, if the rock band was marketable - they don't look like they were hit in the face with a meat hook or anything? Still makes me laugh. ;D
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Post by supercharged350 on Apr 9, 2009 5:27:21 GMT -5
um,, DW.. thats the craziest post I've ever read. I think your watching too much MTV. There are literally thousands of amazing players who have endorsements who don't meet any of your criteria. I mean Nickelback fits your criteria...? LOL!! Yeah, I have to agree.
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Post by shreder75 on Apr 9, 2009 18:20:16 GMT -5
the best thing anybody can do to help scott is a) make cool clips and share them and b) crank up one of his amps at a gig and not suck!
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Post by DonaldDemon on Apr 17, 2009 16:07:38 GMT -5
um,, DW.. thats the craziest post I've ever read. I think your watching too much MTV. There are literally thousands of amazing players who have endorsements who don't meet any of your criteria. I mean Nickelback fits your criteria...? LOL!! Yeah, I have to agree. Same here. I mean that applies if you want to be endorsed by Fender or Gibson but there are tons of small companies out there that are willing to endorse smaller scale artists. I plan on sending email to a bunch when we get the album finished and printed.
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Post by ecpat5150 on Apr 18, 2009 1:55:50 GMT -5
i had no intentions of sounding like a douche' or anything....i'm not packing 20,000k + arenas by any means. i'm just an aspiring artist who was inquiring about getting some exposure.
i mainly want to help out scott. if i could get some business cards, banners, t-shirts, anything....b/c i get a lot of questions from fans and sound guys about my amp. it becomes tiring explaining night after night. i'd rather just hand out a business card and say "go to the website, and hear for yourself."
i was hooked from first listen. that's really all it takes with these amps.
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