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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 5, 2008 13:24:04 GMT -5
Ok, so somebody wants to trade me their Bogner oversized 2x12 for my Rivera I have for sale. Now, I was selling the Rivera cab to fund a 2x12 anyway but his is the oversized with a V30 and a Private Jack. I hear the Bogner oversized are not much smaller than the 4x12's and sound the same which might negate the purpose for me. I already use a Bogner 4x12 as my main cab and I need something with less stage volume.
What is the advantage to having an oversized cab? I was really looking to sell this cab and order a custom Splawn 2x12 so I could have a matching cab, give Scott buisness and get a custom look. I may go with the trade just out of conveinence though.
Any experience with the oversized cab? How about the Private Jack, anyone ever use one?
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Post by LooseCannon on Sept 5, 2008 14:14:20 GMT -5
Same advantage as an oversized penis.
Actually, even though I didn't play one, when I was asking around deciding between the splawn standard 2x12 and the oversized, I was told the oversized sounds more open and woody and the standard is tighter with more bass.
Regarding the privat jack- it's a greenback copy, and a bad one. I've heard it in a clip that compares it with other speakers and it sounded worse than the others.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 5, 2008 14:55:33 GMT -5
Same advantage as an oversized penis. Actually, even though I didn't play one, when I was asking around deciding between the splawn standard 2x12 and the oversized, I was told the oversized sounds more open and woody and the standard is tighter with more bass. Regarding the privat jack- it's a greenback copy, and a bad one. I've heard it in a clip that compares it with other speakers and it sounded worse than the others. lol..thanks for that visual. It seems like most reviews of the PJ are pretty good? Oh well, the speaker can be changed easily. I am more concerned if the OS 2x12 will be loud as fck and not any better than my 4x12. Thanks for your input. |
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Post by Jammermatt on Sept 5, 2008 15:37:16 GMT -5
Josh at Splawn told me the same thing that Loose said, thus I got a standard sized becuase I already have an oversized Winky.
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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 5, 2008 15:45:30 GMT -5
Josh at Splawn told me the same thing that Loose said, thus I got a standard sized becuase I already have an oversized Winky. Winky, as in eye-patch?  Ok, everything I'm reading about the Bogner oversized is the opposite. More bass/low end and less mids. If that's true, I think I'll pass. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 6, 2008 14:13:10 GMT -5
Oh, well I'm not going for the trade. I don't want a 2x12 that will be close to the same size and volume as a 4x12. I'm selling the cab tomorrow abd placing an order for a Splawn cab.  |
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 8, 2008 8:58:14 GMT -5
Same advantage as an oversized penis. Actually, even though I didn't play one, when I was asking around deciding between the splawn standard 2x12 and the oversized, I was told the oversized sounds more open and woody and the standard is tighter with more bass. Regarding the privat jack- it's a greenback copy, and a bad one. I've heard it in a clip that compares it with other speakers and it sounded worse than the others. lol..thanks for that visual. It seems like most reviews of the PJ are pretty good? Oh well, the speaker can be changed easily. I am more concerned if the OS 2x12 will be loud as fck and not any better than my 4x12. Thanks for your input. vlad had private jacks and didn't care for them...went with the greenback reissues.. of course in a 2x12, you wouldn't want that with a 120 watt amp..lol |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Sept 8, 2008 10:53:07 GMT -5
lol..thanks for that visual. It seems like most reviews of the PJ are pretty good? Oh well, the speaker can be changed easily. I am more concerned if the OS 2x12 will be loud as fck and not any better than my 4x12. Thanks for your input. vlad had private jacks and didn't care for them...went with the greenback reissues.. of course in a 2x12, you wouldn't want that with a 120 watt amp..lol Well, too late. I already ordered my cab. I didn't go for the Bogner trade, sold my cab straight up for cash. I just ordered a Splawn 2x12 with SB25's. Josh said the wattage wouldn't be a problem. |
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Post by fastredponycar on Nov 11, 2008 23:25:17 GMT -5
our rhythm player used to have an OS bogner 2X12 and it simply couldn't handle the low end thunder of the nitro. It was really farty and loose, beamy and just had zero warmth to it.
could have been the vintage 30's though... I just didnt' like it... my $250 beat up carvin legacy 4X12 whipped it.
I know that cab construction, materials, speakers, etc all impact the overall sound so it could just be the bogner's design or something but man my splawn 4X12 just kills quite literally every 4X12 I've plugged into so who knows... maybe the OS splawn 2X12 really is different from the bogner. I'd like to hear someone do a direct A/B comparison of the two with the same speakers, etc...
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Post by Edward on Nov 15, 2008 11:12:30 GMT -5
An oversized cab is gonna have more lowend than a regular cab. THat is the main advantage, since it will get closer to a 4x12 sounds. There should be less overall affect on the mids and high's, except for the percieved affect from the added lowend.
That said, the speakers in it will (obviously) make a huge difference in whether the extra lowend is a good or bad thing.
I dont think you could go wrong with a scott cab with SB25's! I am gonna order some and start replacing the celestians I have soon.
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Post by windsen on Nov 15, 2008 11:17:20 GMT -5
i talked to scott briefly about the OS splawn cab at splawn con a few weeks back and he told me a common mis-conception about his OS cabs is that they have more lowend, which is in fact not true. the OS cabs aren't as deep as the standard cabs. it's actually the standard cabs that have the bigger low end.
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Post by LooseCannon on Nov 15, 2008 11:31:43 GMT -5
Yeah I was told the same thing when I ordered my 2x12 from Josh at splawn, the standard size have more bass.
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Post by Edward on Nov 17, 2008 16:50:35 GMT -5
Wow, that is interesting! I thought they were the same depth. The lowend comes from the volume within the cab, Which most oversized cabs have more volume. The depth definately helps more on the lowend than the height of the cab since it gives the long, round wave form more space to develop.
Well I learn something new about Splawn's every day.
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Post by calebbuck on Jan 29, 2009 9:20:50 GMT -5
quick question. what do the standard 2x12's weigh?
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Post by DonaldDemon on Jan 31, 2009 9:53:21 GMT -5
i talked to scott briefly about the OS splawn cab at splawn con a few weeks back and he told me a common mis-conception about his OS cabs is that they have more lowend, which is in fact not true. the OS cabs aren't as deep as the standard cabs. it's actually the standard cabs that have the bigger low end. Yep. Scott said the same thing as well as Josh from Splawn. I guess the OS cab is taller but not as deep. |
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