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Post by fastredponycar on May 23, 2008 16:34:53 GMT -5
Considering a new cab to go with my nitro that's on it's way... supplimental or possibly replacement for my earcandy buzzbomb. The BB has incredible clarity, tightness, power, etc but it's compact closed design makes it a very directional and beamy (if that makes sense) cab. It doesn't fill the stage very well but projects to the back of the room without breaking a sweat and I want something that can still do that but also pump a little extra sound for ME up on stage so I was considering the oversized 2X12 open back cab with a pair of eminence wizards. Has anyone done any comparisons between the open back splawn 2X12 and the bogner os 2X12? They look virtually identical besides the fact that the bogner is closed back. It suffers from the same problem my BB has (our rythem player uses one) only it's not as tight and clear as the buzzbomb. I don't want to sacrifice that clarity and tightness my BB has and hopefully, that lack of tightness from the bogner is just due to the V30's. I'm also considering the mako amplification 2X12. It has an oversized design also with a theile port on the bottom that's sealable and a large hexagon back panel that's also removable so it can be closed back or open back and closed/open front port. It's pretty intriguing but also would cost as much empty as a splawn 2X12 WITH speakers. I can't find anyone who's played let alone owns a mako 2X12 so hopefully you guys can give me a description of the sound the splawn OS 2X12 w/open back has.
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Post by guitarded1 on Jul 10, 2008 8:35:51 GMT -5
Bumping this one. Surely someone knows. The open back Spalwn 2x12 really interests me, because it looks more like it's ported, as opposed to a true open back. I'm wondering if it still has thump to it...especially when compared to the Bogner 2x12. Also, how about the weight? The whole point is to keep from breaking my back.
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Jul 10, 2008 10:46:05 GMT -5
I had a Splawn 2-12" but it wasn't the oversized.. It sounded great I thought.. plenty of bottom and a real nice crisp top-end without sounding too "small" like other cabs that size. Played a few shows with it but I always end up going back to 4-12's.
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Post by supercharged350 on Jul 10, 2008 13:34:14 GMT -5
This doesn't really answer your question but when I had my 2X12 built I spoke with Scott about it and he said the OS 2X12 has a much more vintage vibe than the standard size closed back cab. Probably not what your going for w/ a Nitro but to each their own. I'd have to assume you'd lose some tightness in the low-end w/ a Splawn OS 2X12.
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Post by metalheadmike on Jul 10, 2008 22:38:43 GMT -5
You're definitely going to lose some bottom end with the OS (especially if you leave casters on, like me). I have an OS 2x12 with MoW/Gov. Some of the low end feel comes back straight on the ground, though - and there's not a lack of low end, per se, but its not going to be as tight or full as a regular 2x12 or 4x12. What you do get is a fantastic sense of space. The OS seems to just bloom the sound out really, really well. It still is a forward firing cab, like all straight fronts, but the OS aspect of it makes cleans expand out a little better, and gives some depth and richness to rhythm distortion.
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Post by guitarded1 on Jul 11, 2008 9:52:05 GMT -5
You're definitely going to lose some bottom end with the OS (especially if you leave casters on, like me). I have an OS 2x12 with MoW/Gov. Some of the low end feel comes back straight on the ground, though - and there's not a lack of low end, per se, but its not going to be as tight or full as a regular 2x12 or 4x12. What you do get is a fantastic sense of space. The OS seems to just bloom the sound out really, really well. It still is a forward firing cab, like all straight fronts, but the OS aspect of it makes cleans expand out a little better, and gives some depth and richness to rhythm distortion. Are you speaking of the open or closed back OS...I think that's the real issue here. Thanks.
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Post by snappinnecks on Jul 13, 2008 9:20:27 GMT -5
Go with a standard 2X12 closed back. You can't go wrong with a tight bass response. Also an open back cab is going to have more of a tendency to fart on ya than a closed one. Guitar cabinets act the same as a boom box in a car does. A completly sealed or correctly ported speaker box is going to be tighter and breathe out of the front only. Putting two speakers on a board in open air and playing through them doesn't sound very good (gong, fart, etc). That basically is an open back cab. It has a top and sides that will focus the sound forward more, but the speaker is still flailing hopelessly around in open air flapping and farting. My two cents of course. Also go with Texas heats instead of Wizards. I'm using heats and love em. My two cents again of course.
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Post by frankencat on Aug 19, 2008 8:54:59 GMT -5
Umm...no. Two speakers on a board is not an open back cab. Open back cabs can sound incredible, it;s just a matter of what you want. Open back cabs sound bigger and spread the sound out all around it and closed back cabs are more focused and punchy sounding. I have both and I use them for different things but if I had to pick one I think I would go for the open back myself. It's a little more versatile and a well designed open back can get into closed back territory if need be. Another option is that you can always get different backs made and try both options!
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