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Post by windsen on May 13, 2008 19:20:12 GMT -5
yea man, happy b-day dude! again thanks for the headsup on these kick ass pres.
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Post by snappinnecks on May 13, 2008 20:27:04 GMT -5
Thanks bro. I stopped having Birthdays 12 years ago heh heh. I'm still 25! Well I at least still feel like I'm 25. 37 isn't so bad. It's just very close to 40. Eeeeeek! I'm glad you like the Shuguangs. I'm liking the EL34B's more evertime I play through them. I think they have burned or broken in now. Very smooth and punchy. I think they have more mids than the KT77's. I compared a couple of short recordings I did with each and the EL34's seem to have more presence or cut to them. Both very tight with good thump. I think the 34's also sound a tad meaner. One day I will finally have a full track to post for ya. I do everything live, so my recoding sessions tend to run quite long especially with me forgetting or messing up drum parts. One man band stuff sux, but is a good challenge. I haven't mastered the heal toe technique on the double kick, so my 16th note runs are still a little sketchy.
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Post by windsen on May 14, 2008 12:43:40 GMT -5
cool dude. i have some Ruby EL34B-STRs (re-labled Shuguang EL-34B's) coming in today. Hopefully I'll have some time to try them out. i'm pretty excited. i also have some Tung-sol EL34B's (what splawn is using now) coming in at the end of the week. should be a pretty interesting comparison b/t the two.
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Post by snappinnecks on May 14, 2008 14:34:32 GMT -5
I haven't used Tung-sol power tubes. Only preamps. I liked the Tung-sols in the clean module in my Randall Rm100.
Those Rubys should sound sweet.
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Post by windsen on May 14, 2008 17:39:58 GMT -5
got the ruby's today and put them in. wow!!! i really think we have a winner here. going to try to give the amp a run later tonight. i will keep you guys updated.
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Post by snappinnecks on May 14, 2008 20:12:37 GMT -5
Yup. I think Scott should start putting Ruby or Shugs in them at the shop. My amp sounds brutal with the shugs. I think they needed some burn or break in time. Now it absolutely slams. it was borderline woofy-farty with the KT77's, so the resonance had to be up pretty high to tighten it up. Now I have the resonance at about 10 O'clock and it is as tight as shoving a watermelon through a keyhole. With the deep Nitro growl of course. I think it has a similar feel of the quickrod I had with the Nitro voice. I think it has a tad less sag, but more sack and cut. It is waaaaaaaaaaaay more pleasant to record fo sho.
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Post by hollywood on May 19, 2008 19:06:45 GMT -5
 Hey guys, the Shuguang tubes are what the elmwood modena 60 amps have in them for power-el-34's and pre-amp spots. Except for the phase inverter position and that's a Sovtek 12ax7wxa. These tubes are very musical. The 34's look alot like the SED'S with a slightly fatter glass bottle, just slightly. 
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Post by snappinnecks on May 19, 2008 19:36:01 GMT -5
Interesting to know. I'm not familiar with Elwood amps. I'm curious how Shugs will sound in a quick rod.
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Post by fastredponycar on May 20, 2008 14:08:17 GMT -5
got the ruby's today and put them in. wow!!! i really think we have a winner here. going to try to give the amp a run later tonight. i will keep you guys updated. The BSTR's are hands down THE best *Current production* EL34's on the planet. I've tested about 7 different pairs of EL34's in my dual 50 watt power amp with a mesa boogie studio preamp and the ruby's just tore up every other pair of tubes. JJ's EL34R's JJ's KT77's =C= EL34's EHX EL34's Groove Tube EL34R's Mesa branded EL34's (probably sovteks) ReIssue Mullard EL34's. All of those listed had under a month of light use. The rubys had a bigger bolder tighter low end with more clarity and definition, the midrange was thick and smooth without being over bearing and the high end was very clear and glassy. I found it funny how with every other pair I tried, I had to raise that channel's volume up a few clicks on their channel's volume knob to equal the decible output the ruby's channel had. Every single pair had a lower volume output and less overall clarity in note structure, especially once I raised the power amp channel all the way. |
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Post by windsen on May 20, 2008 14:14:28 GMT -5
yea, the ruby's are real impressive. i got to try some of the new tung-sol el34bs briefly this week and i really liked those as well. still trying to decide on which tubes i like more in the nitro...rubys or tung-sols.
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Post by fastredponycar on May 20, 2008 16:17:54 GMT -5
I'll take the rubys if you end up with the TS's.
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Post by windsen on May 20, 2008 16:24:38 GMT -5
cool man. i'll keep you updated. i'll probably make my decison by the end of the weekend.
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Post by LooseCannon on May 20, 2008 19:35:15 GMT -5
Guys try them in the QR please!
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Post by hollywood on May 20, 2008 19:39:38 GMT -5
Where are you guys getting the Tung-sols and the ruby tubes from? What ratings?
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Post by snappinnecks on May 20, 2008 19:51:33 GMT -5
I got my Shugs (Ruby rebrands them) on Ebay. I also have a set I got from the tubestore. Mine are rated at 37 and the tube store set are 39. I think the higher rate tubes have a clearer sound and later break up. I think Groove Tubes sell a rebranded Shuguang EL34B also. Their tubes are rated on a scale of 1 to 10. 10 being the ones with the most head room or latest break up I think.
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Hey guys, the Shuguang tubes are what the elmwood modena 60 amps have in them for power-el-34's and pre-amp spots. Except for the phase inverter position and that's a Sovtek 12ax7wxa. These tubes are very musical. The 34's look alot like the SED'S with a slightly fatter glass bottle, just slightly. 
