n00b thinking about buying a splawn...

[famousguy]

or a vht deliverance, anyhow I have some questions:

1. Does the competition have a 16ohm speaker output?

2. Has anyone tried their splawn through an orange cab with v30s?

3. Is the wait still around 13 weeks for ordering? I'd love to have it to mess around with all summer

thanks for any help

[Jammermatt]

famousguy said:

or a vht deliverance, anyhow I have some questions:

1. Does the competition have a 16ohm speaker output?

2. Has anyone tried their splawn through an orange cab with v30s?

3. Is the wait still around 13 weeks for ordering? I'd love to have it to mess around with all summer

thanks for any help

1. Yes, 4, 8 and 16 ohm switch on the back. I think Scott prefers 16 ohms if memory serves (brighter I think he said... I THINK)

2. No. I have an Avatar with H30/V30 mix (hellatone versions). It sounds fine to me. You'll find a million opinions, and as I speak I'm considering a Splawn 2x12 in the near future, just to see what the hubbub is about..

3. Mine was 12 weeks, and I received it in January '07. 13 might be about right for this point in time.

[jameshealey]

1, sure does has 16,8,4 out..

2, not at orange cab but I do have a v30 loaded 2x12 cab and i'll say v30s arent the best choice for a splawn they sound a bit harsh and unmusical u want something without those spikey mids, i'd suggest just getting a splawn cab and going with scotts suggestions.

3, mine was about 16 weeks but I live in the UK and i had a few weeks delay because of christmas and new year.

[shreder75]

I played the deliverance...didn't do anything for me, much like all the other VHT amps I've played....

I don't find V30s to be a good match for much of anything unless the amp's particularly dark, like say a bogner XTC or something like that...

[jameshealey]

yea v30s work well with Bogner, Mesa etc..

[ALICE]

famousguy said:

or a vht deliverance, anyhow I have some questions:

1. Does the competition have a 16ohm speaker output?

2. Has anyone tried their splawn through an orange cab with v30s?

3. Is the wait still around 13 weeks for ordering? I'd love to have it to mess around with all summer

thanks for any help

I have My prostock ( matching Tolex)thru an Orange 4X12 cab. Sound Great

Loving it. So no worries Dude.

[DonaldDemon]

I use a Bogner cab w/ V30's with my Pro Mod and it sounds good. Maybe it's the KT88 tubes that make a difference, I don't know.

[craggin]

If you order through a dealer, the wait time can be less as they have orders in a queue already.

[supercharged350]

I've gotten some pretty great response to the clips I've posted here and they were ALL thru V30's. I'm not sure if there are inconsistencies in the Splawn amps or what but my Pro Stock (same as Comp but 100 watter...) is WAY darker than the VHT or any of the 4 Mesa amps I've owned. (If mine is the exception than I'm glad, I love it!)) I see posts about shrill or spikey high end and I just don't get it. I run a Mesa cab w/ V30's and a Mesa w/ Custom 90's and my tone slams. Good luck.

[supercharged350]

craggin said:

If you order through a dealer, the wait time can be less as they have orders in a queue already.

Can't get a Comp thru a dealer last I heard, only direct.

[Jammermatt]

Yeah.

[jameshealey]

v30s don't sound spikey or harsh with splawns, they just don't sound as good as other speaker alternatives.. to me when u run a Splawn into a V30 it tends to sound more like the Bogner XTC and less marshally.. but u run it through G12H30's and it's back into true Splawn terratory.

neither are bad i just feel the V30 hides the true character of the amp.

[famousguy]

thanks for the advice everyone. I went with the vht deliverance almost right after I posted this, because I got a great deal, BUT the vht is freakin LOUD (I know that comes with the territory, but damn), makes my strat sound less straty, and I don't like its lower gain sound, so i'm probably sending it back and going for the splawn afterall. Which leads me to:
1. Will the splawn sound decent at bedroom levels? Does it have that big volume jump a lot of tube amps seem to have?
2. EL34 vs kt77 vs kt88s, i know this is pretty subjective but whatever, cant hurt to hear as many opinions as I can. Arent the 77s and 34s interchangeable? I'm aiming for versatility, something that'll chug but do a nice mild, classic overdrive as well...maybe even some decent cleans if I roll off the volume

[Jammermatt]

I play my Comp in the bedroom.

My feeling is that if you're relying solely on the master volume, then you might have some trouble getting good bedroom tone. The MV just seems to want to be past 9:00, and in the bedroom that will be too loud. I started out with a Hot Plate. It worked alright, but I am liking using a volume pedal in the effects loop now - I prefer it to the Hot Plate - and it is much much cheaper. It is also less stressful to your power tubes. It also feels that the amp reacts differently with the pedal, doesn't fight me as much as the Hot Plate. I might even be unloading my 8 ohm Hot Plate, but haven't decided yet. Always seems whenever I sell something, I later live to regret it, and at over 200 bucks used I don't want to later wish I'd kept it.

And I think it does have that volume hump between say 8:00 and 10:00, where a good amount of the volume gain happens. My understanding of power and decibels is that the power vs volume curve is exponential (or is it logarithmic, I can never remember). So, at lower volumes it takes less power to gain a given number of decibels, but as decibels increase, the additional power required to get to the next decibel is double or more, and that is why the hump at the beginning occurs for a linear knob.

Could be totally offbase with the theory, but I think it's something like that. My Electrical Engineer friend explained it to me once, but I was drinking..

[famousguy]

hmm interesting. I read some guy on HC saying that at the real low volume you are basically just hearing the pre-amp tubes, and when the volume jumps around 9oclock thats the power tubes kicking in, dont have a clue how accurate that is. I'm sending the VHT back on friday, kinda sucks because it does have one really thick distorted sound I really like, but thats the ONLY sound I liked out of it.