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Post by davo on Oct 16, 2006 15:56:08 GMT -5
Hi guys,
I am looking to buy a usb recorder to get sounds directly into the PC. Any ideas? Just guitar now. I may use it for more later. Price range from $50-$200. I am looking at the following: Line 6 TonePort, TASCAM US-122, Alesis MultiMix 8USB Mixer. The Alesis MultiMix looks pretty interesting.
Thanks for the help, D
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Post by TJ on Oct 16, 2006 16:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by motrock on Oct 16, 2006 20:05:39 GMT -5
You know, in all honesty, as long as you have a really good mic pre and a good mic, its all good. I have a Yamaha AW16G, and its a great recorder. The mic pre thats in it is a crappy digital mic pre. I am going to be getting myself a Universal Audio Tube Mic Pre called the SOLO 610. They have a great Mic Pre that also contains the UA Compressor within the unit. Its all classic tube feel. Van Halen I - Diver Down used that Mic Pre on the bass and Eds guitar, plus the newer Greenday stuff used the Univeral Audio 610 units.
Now, there are some cheaper units that I am looking at too like Presonus, etc. There are tons of options. The Universal Audio seemed kind of cool too me though. I guess as long as I can get a really cool guitar sound out of whatever, it really don't matter. Except, it has to be a tube mic pre. That is a major key in getting a great recorded guitar tone.
I notice a lot of studio's record the rhythm guitars with less gain from the amp, and add more gain with the tube mic pre. That was a key to the early VH tone. When Eddie played live on the VH1 tour, I noticed that his tone wasn't as distorted as the album. The Universal Audio 610 preamp had A LOT to do with that.
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Post by VomHalen on Oct 17, 2006 8:35:24 GMT -5
You know, in all honesty, as long as you have a really good mic pre and a good mic, its all good. I have a Yamaha AW16G, and its a great recorder. The mic pre thats in it is a crappy digital mic pre. I am going to be getting myself a Universal Audio Tube Mic Pre called the SOLO 610. They have a great Mic Pre that also contains the UA Compressor within the unit. Its all classic tube feel. Van Halen I - Diver Down used that Mic Pre on the bass and Eds guitar, plus the newer Greenday stuff used the Univeral Audio 610 units. Now, there are some cheaper units that I am looking at too like Presonus, etc. There are tons of options. The Universal Audio seemed kind of cool too me though. I guess as long as I can get a really cool guitar sound out of whatever, it really don't matter. Except, it has to be a tube mic pre. That is a major key in getting a great recorded guitar tone. I notice a lot of studio's record the rhythm guitars with less gain from the amp, and add more gain with the tube mic pre. That was a key to the early VH tone. When Eddie played live on the VH1 tour, I noticed that his tone wasn't as distorted as the album. The Universal Audio 610 preamp had A LOT to do with that. you saw ed on the VH1 tour?....***sigh*** |
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Post by davo on Oct 17, 2006 9:10:30 GMT -5
Thanks TJ, Bit of a budget buster. Good Christmas gift. I saw that MusicGoRound had one for $200. I probably go ahead and buy something nice like the us-428. I guess I need a mic as well. I was going to go with the SM-57 or that zakk wylde mic. motrock, That SOLO 610 is way out of my league. |
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Post by motrock on Oct 17, 2006 17:28:27 GMT -5
You know, in all honesty, as long as you have a really good mic pre and a good mic, its all good. I have a Yamaha AW16G, and its a great recorder. The mic pre thats in it is a crappy digital mic pre. I am going to be getting myself a Universal Audio Tube Mic Pre called the SOLO 610. They have a great Mic Pre that also contains the UA Compressor within the unit. Its all classic tube feel. Van Halen I - Diver Down used that Mic Pre on the bass and Eds guitar, plus the newer Greenday stuff used the Univeral Audio 610 units. Now, there are some cheaper units that I am looking at too like Presonus, etc. There are tons of options. The Universal Audio seemed kind of cool too me though. I guess as long as I can get a really cool guitar sound out of whatever, it really don't matter. Except, it has to be a tube mic pre. That is a major key in getting a great recorded guitar tone. I notice a lot of studio's record the rhythm guitars with less gain from the amp, and add more gain with the tube mic pre. That was a key to the early VH tone. When Eddie played live on the VH1 tour, I noticed that his tone wasn't as distorted as the album. The Universal Audio 610 preamp had A LOT to do with that. you saw ed on the VH1 tour?....***sigh*** LOL I got that from bootlegs! LOL I have noticed a big difference in the tone from the VHI album and the 78 tour boots. I am noticing that Eddie really didn't have that terrible much gain. I was talking to this guy over at the Plexi Palace that had a bunch of info. As a matter of fact, I think there was a website that described it. Cause the same guy owns the original soundboard from Sunset Sound/ 5150 studio's. |
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Post by davo on Oct 19, 2006 10:46:16 GMT -5
Hey TJ, Would I need a voice processor in addition to the US-428? I know poo about recording. D |
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Post by TJ on Oct 20, 2006 11:07:04 GMT -5
No you wouldn't need that to record guitar. Depending on what type amp you're using you could just go direct if it had a direct out. If not just get a sm57 and mic it up, crank it up and go for it. Sorry dude I ddin't see this post until just now. You'll need to have a recording program like cakewalk or something similar. Cakewalk comes with some drum loops but honestly I"ve never used them. I use beta monkey drum loops. Craig recommended the loops and they're great and easy to use.
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Post by davo on Oct 20, 2006 11:33:36 GMT -5
No you wouldn't need that to record guitar. Depending on what type amp you're using you could just go direct if it had a direct out. If not just get a sm57 and mic it up, crank it up and go for it. Sorry dude I ddin't see this post until just now. You'll need to have a recording program like cakewalk or something similar. Cakewalk comes with some drum loops but honestly I"ve never used them. I use beta monkey drum loops. Craig recommended the loops and they're great and easy to use. Thanks TJ, You must review splawn forum 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so I don't have to wait more than 15 minutes for an answer! TeeHee My friend who recorded his last CD on his own ( www.theturnstiles.net ) told me that he went to GC looking for a recorder. He went in wanting to spend $200-$400. By the time they were done it was more like $1000 - $1200. They told him that digital recorder can't do vocals and that you need a voice processor. It would be nice to get something to grow with. I ask my friend if he wanted to go in halfers on the us-428. He told me that he didn't need no ole stinky recorder and to F-off. Thanks for the info. D |
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Post by TJ on Oct 20, 2006 11:49:35 GMT -5
Check Ebay you can find those pretty cheap. If you were looking to do a whole cd with vocals you might have to purchase some vocal recording software. If you're just recording guitar then you won't need that at all.
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