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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 9:46:06 GMT -5
yeah, well...whatever....lol... boils down to time and energy..ain't got the time or energy to do a completely new startup band right now...got this band on its feet before I was busy with everything else so I had time to do all that start up B.S... which is what pisses me off the most..we were finally coasting then bam..brick wall.. d**n rythm section..always the rythm section...lol this is what we said before, this takes alot of time and it takes alot of energy to find these people... ads in the paper/auditions/first shows with new guys/having to tell them it's not working out...it's all alot of time and effort. it's all driven by gigs that you have to meet. if you're not actively gigging then there's no pressure on you to find these people and band's tend to fold. when you find your core guys who can play, who you can get along with and who have the time to gig then you just play w/ those guys. i mean, i just recently found a drummer that fits these criteria (so far)..... I think that's what pisses me off the most...we had a good group of guys...but as time went on one of the guys started to have unrealistic expectations and decided to call it quits... we're not the Nerds or some other national coverband act...we're a bunch of weekend warriors who like to go out and have fun..the one guy just started to get his panties in a bunch and stopped having fun and sucked the fun out of it for the rest of us..and, he decided he was going to stop booking gigs because he had his mind made up to leave already and didn't inform the rest of the band..thus the sparseness of our schedule over the next month and a half.... so, once he announced he was leaving, the other guitar player who owns and sometimes runs the pa figure he's gonan call it quits as well AND he's takin' the PA with him..not only is he taking it, he's SELLING it..so, bam...no PA system...most places we play don't have their own sound... it's a ginormous pain in the keister to be sure... so right now I'm sending emaails to established bands looking for another guitar player..I'm tryin' to keep me and the singer and the drummer together, but the lack of a bassplayer AND a PA..well, it's just another deathblow that we can't overcome..and I'm the only one lookin' into options so in the end I'm gonna friggin' do what's best for me...nuff said..lol |
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Post by VomHalen on Sept 18, 2006 9:56:16 GMT -5
i hear ya about that guy with unreal expectations...people think they'll be happier in a really successful band (whether it's originals or covers). what happens is that a new slew of problems/issues/pressures face you that you never considered.
currently, i'm putting my old party band back together. my only expectations are to play gigs w/ people that i really like, and just have fun....
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 10:10:35 GMT -5
i hear ya about that guy with unreal expectations...people think they'll be happier in a really successful band (whether it's originals or covers). what happens is that a new slew of problems/issues/pressures face you that you never considered. currently, i'm putting my old party band back together. my only expectations are to play gigs w/ people that i really like, and just have fun.... exactly! alotta the coverbands he 'idolizes' (no other way to put it) are full time salaried coverbands...that's their LIVING...that's all he talks about... welp, we ain't them..lol...just in it to play once or twice a weekend at most and have a friggin' good time at it... |
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Post by VomHalen on Sept 18, 2006 10:13:40 GMT -5
i hear ya about that guy with unreal expectations...people think they'll be happier in a really successful band (whether it's originals or covers). what happens is that a new slew of problems/issues/pressures face you that you never considered. currently, i'm putting my old party band back together. my only expectations are to play gigs w/ people that i really like, and just have fun.... exactly! alotta the coverbands he 'idolizes' (no other way to put it) are full time salaried coverbands...that's their LIVING...that's all he talks about... welp, we ain't them..lol...just in it to play once or twice a weekend at most and have a friggin' good time at it... exactly sir...just have some fun |
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 10:19:27 GMT -5
exactly! alotta the coverbands he 'idolizes' (no other way to put it) are full time salaried coverbands...that's their LIVING...that's all he talks about... welp, we ain't them..lol...just in it to play once or twice a weekend at most and have a friggin' good time at it... exactly sir...just have some fun exactly! and I do blame him for suckin' all the fun out of it..'oh, the drummer this and that..oh the singer this and that'..hey, he's a good player, but he ain't friggin' perfect either..he makes as many mistakes as the rest of us... it's funny..those lofty expectations have just shown themselves since day one....'oh we can get X amount with this band'...dude, we don't even have ten songs down..relax..lol he took over the booking duties cause he didn't like how the singer was doin' it..the singer told him to knock himself out...we haven't made so little money as some of the 'great gigs!!' he booked for us.. lol sorry, I'm venting =( |
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Post by VomHalen on Sept 18, 2006 10:27:21 GMT -5
exactly sir...just have some fun exactly! and I do blame him for suckin' all the fun out of it..'oh, the drummer this and that..oh the singer this and that'..hey, he's a good player, but he ain't friggin' perfect either..he makes as many mistakes as the rest of us... it's funny..those lofty expectations have just shown themselves since day one....'oh we can get X amount with this band'...dude, we don't even have ten songs down..relax..lol he took over the booking duties cause he didn't like how the singer was doin' it..the singer told him to knock himself out...we haven't made so little money as some of the 'great gigs!!' he booked for us.. lol sorry, I'm venting =( i know man. i'm at the stage where i have a good band but i know we're not going to be the next darik and the funbags or the nerds. i just want to play/ get some people up and dancing/ and have a fun time on the weekends... people see national coverbands and think..."i can do that too"...but there's alot more involved than just being able to play. you have to figure out a marketing scheme and grow your fanbase, that's a lot of work....and a lot of pressure to get people to your shows.... |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Sept 18, 2006 10:50:06 GMT -5
Finding those key people is really, uh, well key to getting something fun and good rolling. Back in 2002 it took 5 months to get Dirrty Hairy going.. but this new band with my drummer we did it in 3 weeks. find that one guy or 2 guys and it will make it easier.
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Post by VomHalen on Sept 18, 2006 11:00:42 GMT -5
Finding those key people is really, uh, well key to getting something fun and good rolling. Back in 2002 it took 5 months to get Dirrty Hairy going.. but this new band with my drummer we did it in 3 weeks. find that one guy or 2 guys and it will make it easier. i'm looking forward to my old band reuniting w/ a new drummer...i think it's gonna work out well...i've been playing shows for the past 6 months w/ the drummer that's going to join and i never heard him complain once... |
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 11:12:07 GMT -5
exactly! and I do blame him for suckin' all the fun out of it..'oh, the drummer this and that..oh the singer this and that'..hey, he's a good player, but he ain't friggin' perfect either..he makes as many mistakes as the rest of us... it's funny..those lofty expectations have just shown themselves since day one....'oh we can get X amount with this band'...dude, we don't even have ten songs down..relax..lol he took over the booking duties cause he didn't like how the singer was doin' it..the singer told him to knock himself out...we haven't made so little money as some of the 'great gigs!!' he booked for us.. lol sorry, I'm venting =( i know man. i'm at the stage where i have a good band but i know we're not going to be the next darik and the funbags or the nerds. i just want to play/ get some people up and dancing/ and have a fun time on the weekends... people see national coverbands and think..."i can do that too"...but there's alot more involved than just being able to play. you have to figure out a marketing scheme and grow your fanbase, that's a lot of work....and a lot of pressure to get people to your shows.... yep...absolutely correct...only takes one person with standards higher than reality to ruin the whole phuckin' kit and kaboodle.... so where I was indifferent to it all before, I am thoroughly pissed off right now..lol I sent out emails to a couple of established bands with pix, mp3s and all that stuff...who knows...maybe one of them'll take pity on me..lol |
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Post by VomHalen on Sept 18, 2006 11:20:39 GMT -5
i know man. i'm at the stage where i have a good band but i know we're not going to be the next darik and the funbags or the nerds. i just want to play/ get some people up and dancing/ and have a fun time on the weekends... people see national coverbands and think..."i can do that too"...but there's alot more involved than just being able to play. you have to figure out a marketing scheme and grow your fanbase, that's a lot of work....and a lot of pressure to get people to your shows.... yep...absolutely correct...only takes one person with standards higher than reality to ruin the whole phuckin' kit and kaboodle.... so where I was indifferent to it all before, I am thoroughly pissed off right now..lol I sent out emails to a couple of established bands with pix, mp3s and all that stuff...who knows...maybe one of them'll take pity on me..lol best of luck w/ that bro |
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 11:24:37 GMT -5
yep...absolutely correct...only takes one person with standards higher than reality to ruin the whole phuckin' kit and kaboodle.... so where I was indifferent to it all before, I am thoroughly pissed off right now..lol I sent out emails to a couple of established bands with pix, mp3s and all that stuff...who knows...maybe one of them'll take pity on me..lol best of luck w/ that bro thanks...I don't knwo what it is, but the whole situation has me really peeved right now.... |
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Post by 110db on Sept 18, 2006 14:35:02 GMT -5
I must be lucky, I've been in the same band with the same guys for 13 years. We all get along very well though, and we've never really even had an argument.
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 18, 2006 16:30:31 GMT -5
I must be lucky, I've been in the same band with the same guys for 13 years. We all get along very well though, and we've never really even had an argument.  |
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Post by Hacksaw on Sept 19, 2006 0:52:54 GMT -5
sorry to hear it shreder,, that stuff is a bummer. and thats what got to me as well at one point, and I ended up buying my own pa, and the rest of the gear. it was well worth it. some one quits, its just a personel change at this point. thanks goodness.. but so far with this last bunch, last 6 years Ive been lucky to find down to earth people. hang in there! ? usually means better things for you down the road.
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Post by shreder75 on Sept 19, 2006 9:13:01 GMT -5
meh, piss on 'em..that's what I say...LOL.....
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