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Post by craggin on Dec 16, 2005 16:15:22 GMT -5
It's like Yngwie...one mention of him among musicians and all you hear is "he plays fast scales...big deal" or "same 'old dimished and harmonic minor stuff, blah, blah blah..." or "not emotion" etc., etc.
I like to ask people (regarding Yngwie) "have you ever listened to him...I mean really listened to him? I can hear a ton of emotion in what he's playing (as well as conviction). Ever listen to Nicolo Paganini? Was he accused of the same things? (I dunno, but he was accused of selling his soul to the devil.)
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Post by jimbax on Dec 16, 2005 16:19:29 GMT -5
It's like Yngwie...one mention of him among musicians and all you hear is "he plays fast scales...big deal" or "same 'old dimished and harmonic minor stuff, blah, blah blah..." or "not emotion" etc., etc. I like to ask people (regarding Yngwie) "have you ever listened to him...I mean really listened to him? I can hear a ton of emotion in what he's playing (as well as conviction). Ever listen to Nicolo Paganini? Was he accused of the same things? (I dunno, but he was accused of selling his soul to the devil.) Hey, any time any of us plays something and puts it out there we have our heart attached to it... |
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Post by craggin on Dec 16, 2005 16:22:11 GMT -5
It's like Yngwie...one mention of him among musicians and all you hear is "he plays fast scales...big deal" or "same 'old dimished and harmonic minor stuff, blah, blah blah..." or "not emotion" etc., etc. I like to ask people (regarding Yngwie) "have you ever listened to him...I mean really listened to him? I can hear a ton of emotion in what he's playing (as well as conviction). Ever listen to Nicolo Paganini? Was he accused of the same things? (I dunno, but he was accused of selling his soul to the devil.) Hey, any time any of us plays something and puts it out there we have our heart attached to it... Exactly...which brings me back to an earlier post about the subjectivity of music. We either get it or we don't...and I'll be the first to admit when I don't get something. (After you convince me I don't. LOL!!!) |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 16, 2005 16:26:36 GMT -5
its hard to know our influence though....I have had terrible off nights and people come to me and say that it was the best guitar playing...bla-bla...and then I'll have a night when all cylinders seem to be workin' and people will say: what happened, you seem off tonight...go figure, I just go out and jam...the chips fall wherever they will fall!
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 16, 2005 17:00:55 GMT -5
and its gets weird like that!! I could be having a great day, go out and end up playing like steely dan or something.. where did that come from?? ahhhh.. I heard it.. and it came out.. I just hope its at the right time to it fits. and that is weird when people say it sounded great.. I am like yea right.. it was suckin on the hind t*t haha Okie talk.. sorry LOL I just dont get those days and write em off!
@#$%@#$ where was that country music station I clicked on??
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 16, 2005 17:06:12 GMT -5
yup...some night you feel like you can do no wrong...what a great feeling
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 16, 2005 17:47:09 GMT -5
yup...some night you feel like you can do no wrong...what a great feeling AMEN! I live for those! love the comfort I get. |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 16, 2005 20:41:16 GMT -5
That guitar player from POISON.....Cadillac Deville or something like that...looks like Marilyn Monroe got whacked in the face with a 2 X 4....yea, that guy....he is OVER RATED!!!!!! Saw Warren De Martini (or whatever) from ratt, a few times in LA before they got signed, a TOTAL EVH wannabee, nobody respected him....he tried to cop Eddies and G Lynch's stage style... I thought he could play though (like Eddie that is...)
BTW: I have Richie Sambora's solo album...he gets great tone, good solid player (decent song writer..not an EGO shredder type..)...SLASH is better than MOST people give him credit for...
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 16, 2005 21:38:47 GMT -5
Hmm after thinking a bit on this one.. I think I will go with Curt Kobain as over rated.
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Post by jimbax on Dec 16, 2005 22:24:43 GMT -5
Hmm after thinking a bit on this one.. I think I will go with Curt Kobain as over rated. Kurt (Big Hair Band Killer) Kobain.... |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 16, 2005 22:29:59 GMT -5
Oh, Tiny Tim was WWWWWAAAAAYYYY overated..even though he played the ukelele (?) he still got way too many props for no skills...
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 16, 2005 23:43:57 GMT -5
Oh, Tiny Tim was WWWWWAAAAAYYYY overated..even though he played the ukelele (?) he still got way too many props for no skills... +HAHAHA.. no doubt.. amazing wasnt it.. 6'5" wasnt he? |
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 17, 2005 14:37:27 GMT -5
That guitar player from POISON.....Cadillac Deville or something like that...looks like Marilyn Monroe got whacked in the face with a 2 X 4....yea, that guy....he is OVER RATED!!!!!! Saw Warren De Martini (or whatever) from ratt, a few times in LA before they got signed, a TOTAL EVH wannabee, nobody respected him....he tried to cop Eddies and G Lynch's stage style... I thought he could play though (like Eddie that is...) BTW: I have Richie Sambora's solo album...he gets great tone, good solid player (decent song writer..not an EGO shredder type..)...SLASH is better than MOST people give him credit for... you BLASHPHEME DIMARTINI?!?!? how DARE you!! lol well, it's no secret they were ALL trying to cop evh back in the day....Randy, Warren, George..the latter of which freely admitted it in a plethora (that's right, I said plethora) of interviews =) dimartini and lynch were separated at birth I'm pretty convinced...lol...similar tone, similar style and attack..it was scary how much they played alike... in fact, when lynch tried to steal some of warren's marshalls in search of the one 'magic' one he wanted, warren used to say to him 'dude, it's bad enough you stole my style, now you want to steal my amps?'..heh... |
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 17, 2005 14:40:20 GMT -5
I've heard that album as well..and I like his acoustic sound and voice..but his guitar playing is pure vanilla.. yeah, he's solid..but he never did thing one to show me that he can hang with some of the other guys that have been mentioned... I dunno..I think Ego and Shredder get lumped in together too much..yngwie? yes...ego shredder...a guy like, john norum? nope..he uses speed when it fits, not all the time...his phrasing is phenominal.... I also think it goes the other way around too...rather than ego shredder..people who do nothing but 'safe' stuff get labeled as 'melodic'...my buddy always used to us that as an out..'oh, I can't do all this technical stuff, but I'm melodic'...melody IS a technique...to me, that'as just a cop out for peopel who usually can't play =) That guitar player from POISON.....Cadillac Deville or something like that...looks like Marilyn Monroe got whacked in the face with a 2 X 4....yea, that guy....he is OVER RATED!!!!!! Saw Warren De Martini (or whatever) from ratt, a few times in LA before they got signed, a TOTAL EVH wannabee, nobody respected him....he tried to cop Eddies and G Lynch's stage style... I thought he could play though (like Eddie that is...) BTW: I have Richie Sambora's solo album...he gets great tone, good solid player (decent song writer..not an EGO shredder type..)...SLASH is better than MOST people give him credit for... |
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 17, 2005 14:40:54 GMT -5
Oh, Tiny Tim was WWWWWAAAAAYYYY overated..even though he played the ukelele (?) he still got way too many props for no skills... don't speak ill of the dead...or ex stern guests..lol |
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