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Post by sbk on Feb 27, 2008 14:31:01 GMT -5
I personally don't mind answering questions about gear that people have. If it's something completely stupid like "Will this 100W tube amp be loud enough to play in a band," then that's one thing. But if someone wants an opinion on something I owned or have used extensively, I don't care to give it to them. Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one. Just because you read reviews on some forums or downloaded some clips someone did with a digicam doesn't mean you'll find the answer you're looking for or it will give you a true representation of the tone. Same with studio albums where the amp has been quad tracked, panned, EQ'd at the board, EQ'd in the mix, mastered by someone else, etc. It's a lot easier to ask the people that you know have had and used the gear for a while - like Splawn users on a Splawn board - instead of relying on random net reviews and studio albums you'll never dial in your single guitar to sound like. In fact, I just started a thread asking for opinions of the Duncan Distortion not long ago. I've read countless opinions on them, but I specifically wanted the opinions of people here. I agree.I think what snappinnecks was refering to is when people want a certain tone that they cant get.For example,there are a few people that hang around here and the other forums that have a new amp every week and one for sale every week.It seems they buy some high dollar amp and it doesnt do what they think it should do and then they are selling it the next day.I usually keep my mouth shut,but I am thinking,awwww hmmm...maybe its you dude!!!Not the amp!I think most 100 watt tube amps will get you in the ball park and some others(like Splawn will be your go to player),but you have to be able to make your amp work for you and you be able to make the amp work.Does that make sense? |
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Post by jaymes on Feb 27, 2008 18:56:01 GMT -5
I personally don't mind answering questions about gear that people have. If it's something completely stupid like "Will this 100W tube amp be loud enough to play in a band," then that's one thing. But if someone wants an opinion on something I owned or have used extensively, I don't care to give it to them. Opinions are like @ssholes, everyone has one. Just because you read reviews on some forums or downloaded some clips someone did with a digicam doesn't mean you'll find the answer you're looking for or it will give you a true representation of the tone. Same with studio albums where the amp has been quad tracked, panned, EQ'd at the board, EQ'd in the mix, mastered by someone else, etc. It's a lot easier to ask the people that you know have had and used the gear for a while - like Splawn users on a Splawn board - instead of relying on random net reviews and studio albums you'll never dial in your single guitar to sound like. In fact, I just started a thread asking for opinions of the Duncan Distortion not long ago. I've read countless opinions on them, but I specifically wanted the opinions of people here. I agree.I think what snappinnecks was refering to is when people want a certain tone that they cant get.For example,there are a few people that hang around here and the other forums that have a new amp every week and one for sale every week.It seems they buy some high dollar amp and it doesnt do what they think it should do and then they are selling it the next day.I usually keep my mouth shut,but I am thinking,awwww hmmm...maybe its you dude!!!Not the amp!I think most 100 watt tube amps will get you in the ball park and some others(like Splawn will be your go to player),but you have to be able to make your amp work for you and you be able to make the amp work.Does that make sense? Another important thing to realize here too is not everyone has the kind of funds to be plopping down 2K on just any amp that tickles their fancy and then sell it the next week if you don't like it. Most peeps would LOVE to be in that kind of position financially, but let's face it...its not reality for a lot of us. Couple that with the fact that not everyone has access to a real Splawn they can demo and viola! There's the reason guys come here with questions. And yeah, you can research your favorite players and find out what gear they are using...but often a lot of guys will 'conveniently leave out' something in their rig lists so that they can keep some things secret...and I can't say I blame them for that. AND, for some of those '80's type tones, you'd have to buy some outdated crap that is hard to find and may break down the day after you get it... I came here asking some very specific questions about the Quickrod, and they were answered well beyond my satisfaction, and in the process I learned some things I didn't know from a few cool dudes who didn't just blow me off. Isn't that the whole point of this forum? Plus, I got me a cool sig! Jaymes |
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Post by snappinnecks on Feb 28, 2008 8:11:22 GMT -5
I don't mind giving my opinion on what I thought of an amp, its features, and most importantly its tone. What I was saying is someone asking a retarded question like will it have the same tone as Zakk Wyldes 50th pinch harmonic on the second verse of song 6 on the first BLS album. Dude it doesn't matter if you are using the same amp, guitar, pedals, strings, picks, cabinet, leather wrist bands, Harley Davidson head wrap, grow your beard down to your chest, lift weights half the day, drink beer the rest of the day, hang out with Ozzy and Sharon, and do any other daily activities like Zakk. You are not going to get the same tone. It is a different set of hands playing the song. It gets old reading posts that ask about can I get the same tone as .....................? I think our generic answer to all these types of posts should be yes.
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Post by sbk on Feb 28, 2008 8:33:51 GMT -5
Will the Nitro cover the tone off the second Cranberries record???........lol..
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Post by snappinnecks on Feb 28, 2008 8:40:04 GMT -5
"From the Splawn review board the answer is..........yes"
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Post by snappinnecks on Feb 28, 2008 8:52:58 GMT -5
Players who are tone searching need to realize that there is a lot of tone shaping and gates used on studio albums these days. The tone that is going into the board may not be the same that is pumping out of the monitors. I can take a fizzy boomy Mesa and make it sound really good after some eqing, gating, adding a dynamic plug in or two, hint of delay and reverb, etc. It won't of course sound as good as my Nitro, but you could get the two sounding pretty close with some good sound engineering and plenty of studio toys. Heck some guys use crap amps on stage that they are endorsed by and use boutique amps in the studio. So back to giving the generic answer of yes makes even more sense now that I have thought about it.
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Post by sbk on Feb 28, 2008 9:40:35 GMT -5
"From the Splawn review board the answer is..........yes" And then add,"I think they make a signature pedal for that sound"! HAHAHAHHAHA |
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Post by snappinnecks on Feb 28, 2008 9:53:03 GMT -5
Dude...you nailed it! Here is the answer. A Splawn plus the signature pedal of the artist you are trying to sound like will do the trick.
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Post by Silverwulf on Feb 28, 2008 11:11:49 GMT -5
With so much reamping going on these days, many artists may not even know what amp was ultimately used on their album.
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Post by sbk on Feb 28, 2008 14:44:07 GMT -5
With so much reamping going on these days, many artists may not even know what amp was ultimately used on their album. They usually dont! How many times have you read an interview with an artist about an album and they were asked"what amps did you use to record the album"?...and the response is sometimes like this..."Well,we had some old marshalls,I think there was a plexi and maybe a JCM 800,and we also has a couple of old fenders,a vox,and a dual rectifier." Also,some of my tracks were overdubbed with my signature series amp and then we used some amp that the producer had"!!! Does that sound familiar? |
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Post by VomHalen on Feb 28, 2008 14:48:47 GMT -5
With so much reamping going on these days, many artists may not even know what amp was ultimately used on their album. They usually dont! How many times have you read an interview with an artist about an album and they were asked"what amps did you use to record the album"?...and the response is sometimes like this..."Well,we had some old marshalls,I think there was a plexi and maybe a JCM 800,and we also has a couple of old fenders,a vox,and a dual rectifier." Also,some of my tracks were overdubbed with my signature series amp and then we used some amp that the producer had"!!! Does that sound familiar? yeah...the only thing missing is the player saying how this new album is the best one they ever did ;D |
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Post by sbk on Feb 28, 2008 14:52:45 GMT -5
They usually dont! How many times have you read an interview with an artist about an album and they were asked"what amps did you use to record the album"?...and the response is sometimes like this..."Well,we had some old marshalls,I think there was a plexi and maybe a JCM 800,and we also has a couple of old fenders,a vox,and a dual rectifier." Also,some of my tracks were overdubbed with my signature series amp and then we used some amp that the producer had"!!! Does that sound familiar? yeah...the only thing missing is the player saying how this new album is the best one they ever did ;D Yes,until the next album comes out! |
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Post by cujo on Feb 28, 2008 16:27:04 GMT -5
you want zakk tone buy a marshall, you want lynch buy a randall lynch box and if you want eddie buy one of his evh amps,you want a real amp buy a splawn or a diezel.
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Post by snappinnecks on Feb 28, 2008 19:37:59 GMT -5
I like the idea of telling them to buy a Splawn and the signature pedal of the artist they are wanting to copy.  |
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Post by scooter on Feb 28, 2008 22:50:53 GMT -5
The Splawn Nitro has fine round bottom end woody mids with the fruity hint of mahogany, rosewood and nickel steel its timeless beauty is enhanced by its erotic yet violent top end sizzle this amp goes wonderfully with hot lights, heavy percussion and deep rumbling bass.
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