I got a new phone!

[splawndude]

I think you played it great and wouldn't worry about it anything minor. You played two of my favorite riffs from that era. I also don't think it was too bright.


So does the EVH Flanger do that for you automatically?

[briman]

Thanks! Yeah the flange does all the work. You just have to click it on and off at the right time in the riffing.
The EVH has a default button to Eddie's sound on the pedal. I was using this setting in vid.

[splawndude]

Hmmmm

May need to pick that up. Not just for that song either - but other stuff I do I could see that being helpful. Right now, all I have is the EVH Phase 90, and although a great pedal it is, it is also somewhat limited. I need Slipknot 'scratch' type stuff.



HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!

[briman]

Happy Thanksgiving to all you guys in the US!!

[gtrjunior]

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

[splawndude]

Nov 22, 2016 20:33:45 GMT -5 briman said:

Thanks! Yeah the flange does all the work. You just have to click it on and off at the right time in the riffing.
The EVH has a default button to Eddie's sound on the pedal. I was using this setting in vid.

Brian,

Do you know how the flange pedal keeps track of when the frequency (oscillation) is rising vs falling?


There is a discussion on this over at Rig-Talk and I also posted your video. Hope that is OK.

[briman]

Hey Splawndude! I have no problem with you sharing the vid.
As for the effect oscillating up and down, you have dial in the speed, manual, width and regen knobs.
You can also just engage the EVH button on it which is what I had in the video. The evh button is just below the knobs and has a yellow light.
I have a pic with the knobs set to almost exacly the same effect values as the evh button. When i use the evh button and then disengage it, my manual setting sounds exactly the same to my ears.
I will post more vids over the Holidays since I will finally have some time!!😆

[briman]

[briman]

The manual knob is moved in this pic.

[splawndude]

Thanks Brian,

What I mean, is as you depress the footswitch on and off, how does the pedal keep track? It is almost as if the pedal is always on and is 'muted' when footswitched off.

Does that make sense? Should I re-explain that?

In Unchained, you (and Eddie) are ONLY using the pedal during the 'ascent' and 'descent' parts of the oscillation. Not the top of the curve or 'hump' and the 'bottom of the curve or 'trough'. Right? How does the pedal do that? I'm searching all over Google and MXR and can't find the answer to that.

[briman]

oh...i got ya now lol!! I am not sure but I think when you click it on the first time, it must start some kind of cycle of oscillation and the go back to where it left off in that cycle when you click back on?
Maybe if you leave it off for more than a certain time limit, it goes back to beginning of cycle? I would imagine all the knob settings might dictate where the cycle begins? They obviously control the speed and depth of oscillation.
I will experiment and let you know.

[splawndude]

OK. Thanks.


I think you know what I mean now.

It either plays the oscillation constantly and mutes when you footswitch it off, or it has some kind of memory that freezes the pattern until the next time you footswitch it. The reason I don't think it is the latter is because that takes out the hump and the trough in the oscillation which doesn't seem natural.

When I first saw the EVH button on that pedal I assumed that if you had that engaged then the oscillation would continue even if you footswitched it off. So then, when you footswitched it back on you would pick up where ever that oscillation was in the cycle. And, as in Unchained, if you have the settings set right to the BPM of the song then you can do what Eddie did - which was to 'mute' the hump and the trough and only pick up the ascent and descent as you chug and palm-mute the low E (D) string.

But now that I read more about it - I do not see any mention of what I am referring to above. I'd be curious if you could figure that out. And if that is the case, I'd be curious as to how many minutes you can go before the pedal stops the oscillation or if you have disconnect from power or what.

Right now, if you are playing and you press on the switch does it automatically start with the descending flanger part if you have the EVH button on?

[briman]

will let you know later tonight when i have a chance to play!

[splawndude]

Hey that's cool. Don't kill yourself over this though.

I am super curious now though. That's just the way my mind is. I have been combing the internet, like 20-30 websites, and I can't find an answer. I made a little diagram to help explain myself. I may post this over at Rig-Talk too and ask there. Lots of smart motherfockers over there.

The sine wave is obvious. This represents, generically, the flanger's frequency response. I know. I know. It doesn't exactly work like that but it was the only way I knew how to show this. The dots are notes. The red parts are the 'muted' parts at the peak and trough of the wave (that we don't hear - as the pedal is turned on and off).

Question: So how does the MXR EVH Flanger pedal keep track of where the oscillation is while the pedal is turned off? For a song like Unchained?

[splawndude]

pyschodave on Rig-Talk says it is on constantly and just muted when you turn it off. That validates what I was saying above. I guess I'm assuming it will do that for several minutes until it realizes you have walked away? Or, I suppose it can detect that there is still a guitar signal passing through so that makes sense. Once the guitar signal goes away - I bet is shuts down.