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Post by shreder75 on Dec 13, 2005 15:13:32 GMT -5
so, granted..disasterpiece has had a shaky start....drummer problems...people moving, getting married, having kids..
but now we're back on track....but I digress
anywho, we're on our third (finally) gig this sunday....
I've let people (friends) know well in advance....four of which were suspect..people I used to hang out with constantly and then have gotten so self absorbed or just weird that they're hard to get a hold of..
anywho, I got two work excuses..one's gonna be outta the town..the other's just a phuckin' liar.....cause it's a sunday..and I know his office ain't open on sunday....he's not THAT important....I got a 'surprise 50th b-day party for my cousin' and I got 'the rangers are playign that day and it's a pivotal game'...tape it jerkwad
after many attempts of keeping these people in the social and band loop, I've given up....pretty much laughed at them and said things like 'gee, there's a surprise..you can't make it'....
and I get the usual, yeah, I wanna see ya! lemme know when the next one is...I did that twice already..BAM....you ARE the weakest link..goodbye....
I just told them you know the web address..if you're interested you'll check back on the gigs portion of the site for the whens and wheres...not gettin' any more emails from me...
rant over, end of line
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Post by jimbax on Dec 13, 2005 15:26:31 GMT -5
so, granted..disasterpiece has had a shaky start....drummer problems...people moving, getting married, having kids.. but now we're back on track....but I digress anywho, we're on our third (finally) gig this sunday.... I've let people (friends) know well in advance....four of which were suspect..people I used to hang out with constantly and then have gotten so self absorbed or just weird that they're hard to get a hold of.. anywho, I got two work excuses..one's gonna be outta the town..the other's just a phuckin... OOOOPPPPSSSS....you said the 'P' word..... |
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Post by craggin on Dec 13, 2005 15:55:08 GMT -5
Shred,
I go through that constantly...try not to take it too personally. I've found (especially as people get older) that it is very difficult to get the average bear off the couch and outside to come check out live music. There seems to be 2 types of people on the music scene...those who dig it and go to every local show they can...and those who just don't give a crap. Unfortunately, the latter makes up the majority of the scene...or lack thereof. If I had a buck for every buddy or friend who bailed on a show, I'd have a room full of Quick Rods.
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Post by jimbax on Dec 13, 2005 15:59:55 GMT -5
Dude, (and I don't mean this in a bad way...) just let people know, go out and jam, continue to stack up the gigs....if you guys are any good, people WILL come....if people FEEL 'pressured' into coming to your gigs that can be a big deterent...when you guys present an environment that is 'fun' and happenin' people will come...you have to work your way there though...
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 13, 2005 16:17:50 GMT -5
if you're in any sort of band playing out regularly you're going to realize that you can't depend on your friends to come out and see ya...especially people that are 30+ years old...
you have to focus on attracting a following other than your friends (which is easier said than done)
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 13, 2005 16:32:38 GMT -5
HEY! whats all this over 30+ stuff?? LOL
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Post by VomHalen on Dec 13, 2005 16:40:53 GMT -5
HEY! whats all this over 30+ stuff?? LOL i'm 37... ;D... i'm just saying that the average person over 30 has other things to do than go support his friend's band... i, and i'm sure a lot of people in bands on this board, have gone through this...the more you play out, the "novelty" of coming to see you play wanes in your friends/family...so you need to focus on developing a following outside of your friends/family...again, easier said than done ;D |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 13, 2005 16:55:48 GMT -5
HEY! whats all this over 30+ stuff?? LOL i'm 37... ;D... i'm just saying that the average person over 30 has other things to do than go support his friend's band... i, and i'm sure a lot of people in bands on this board, have gone through this...the more you play out, the "novelty" of coming to see you play wanes in your friends/family...so you need to focus on developing a following outside of your friends/family...again, easier said than done ;D unless you offer: shuffle board, darts, cribbage, square dancing etc...that'll get em' there...  |
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 13, 2005 18:03:08 GMT -5
And DONT FORGET the all you can eat buffet :-) Jimbax, Splawnfan, grab your Walker! were going out! LOL!!
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Dec 13, 2005 21:02:09 GMT -5
Ditto on Craggin and Splawnfans post. I've got more friends than I know what do with and most I've met at my own gigs. Unless they are musicians the average 30-something couple or guy/gal will not be out till 3 AM every night like us road dogs.. its just not natural. What happens though is you meet those people when your out, and at your shows. Never depend on friends and family to make your gigs 'better' or fill the room, cause you just can't depend on that.
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 14, 2005 14:44:43 GMT -5
Dude, (and I don't mean this in a bad way...) just let people know, go out and jam, continue to stack up the gigs....if you guys are any good, people WILL come....if people FEEL 'pressured' into coming to your gigs that can be a big deterent...when you guys present an environment that is 'fun' and happenin' people will come...you have to work your way there though... I know you don't mean it in a bad way..but I think we're talkin' about two different things... these are long time 'friends' who a) complain we don't get to see enough of each other and are like b) dude, you GOTTA let me know when your band's playing! can't wait to see ya! at which point I tell them and they have some kinda cockamaimy excuse as to why they can't make it =) we have a ton of people comming, dont' get me wrong...but I'm tired of the excuses from some people (and this goes beyond the band thing, mind you..but it's now a deal breaker for me).. no special treatment for these individuals....check the website like everyone else..lol |
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 14, 2005 14:46:52 GMT -5
if you're in any sort of band playing out regularly you're going to realize that you can't depend on your friends to come out and see ya...especially people that are 30+ years old... you have to focus on attracting a following other than your friends (which is easier said than done) I realize that..and once again, I'm not sure people are following me on this thread...lol.... I know we'll get a crowd once we start playing out more...I'm not worried about that in the least....not only cause (I think) we're cool, but we're fun...if you can fall asleep to it, we don't play it..or at least, don't play it in that form..hehe... I know people have things going on...but when they hound you to tell them about the band and when yo0u're playing out again cause they wanna see you and you DO tell them and they have the ole 'can't, I'm rearranging my sock drawer that night' excuse everytime, that's another story |
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Post by shreder75 on Dec 14, 2005 14:50:15 GMT -5
Ditto on Craggin and Splawnfans post. I've got more friends than I know what do with and most I've met at my own gigs. Unless they are musicians the average 30-something couple or guy/gal will not be out till 3 AM every night like us road dogs.. its just not natural. What happens though is you meet those people when your out, and at your shows. Never depend on friends and family to make your gigs 'better' or fill the room, cause you just can't depend on that. I totally understand that..I wouldn't go see a friend's band constantly either probably...lol.... but this is our third show...(had a couple set backs) and they've had excuses all three times...and as I said, AFTER they approached ME as to inform them when we're playing out...that and they haven't even come out once... if we played 4 nights a week for 6 months straight and they were comming out constantly, I'd let it slide..but as I asid, this goes beyond just the whole band thing..that was just the breaking point with these certain people...and I used that as an example to keep it somewhat relavent even though it's the off topic lounge =d anywho, as far as a following goes..I'll let my quick rod, I mean my bands music (lol) speak for itself...lol |
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Post by jimbax on Dec 14, 2005 14:55:55 GMT -5
Dude, (and I don't mean this in a bad way...) just let people know, go out and jam, continue to stack up the gigs....if you guys are any good, people WILL come....if people FEEL 'pressured' into coming to your gigs that can be a big deterent...when you guys present an environment that is 'fun' and happenin' people will come...you have to work your way there though... I know you don't mean it in a bad way..but I think we're talkin' about two different things... these are long time 'friends' who a) complain we don't get to see enough of each other and are like b) dude, you GOTTA let me know when your band's playing! can't wait to see ya! at which point I tell them and they have some kinda thingyamaimy excuse as to why they can't make it =) we have a ton of people comming, dont' get me wrong...but I'm tired of the excuses from some people (and this goes beyond the band thing, mind you..but it's now a deal breaker for me).. no special treatment for these individuals....check the website like everyone else..lol I think your right then...A) these people really aren't your friends B) these people are your friends but don't want to hurt your feelings on the 'band' thing they see you are into but they aren't... C) they're jerkin' your chain and you need new friends... |
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Post by Hacksaw on Dec 14, 2005 15:03:15 GMT -5
I see your point, yes it is very evident when people brush ya off etc.. and when they ignore or lie about it, thats when its personal, and its usually more evident too. if people would give a straight answer, hey I am just not into the bar cause I dont  or what ever.. or I just dont like you, Thats cool. but I dont care for it when they make up stuff to not show up! This little blue marble gets weird sometimes. |
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or what ever.. or I just dont like you, Thats cool. but I dont care for it when they make up stuff to not show up! This little blue marble gets weird sometimes.