Thinking about Going w/ Splawn 2x12

[Jammermatt]

Hey guys,

Currently driving a Comp as some of you might know. My cabinet is 4x12 Avatar with Hellatone versions of the V30 and G12H30 in X-pattern. I was playing with some dudes, but that has fallen through so mostly playing at home now. The 4x12 is simply overkill for me at the moment and I'm curious about going to a totally Splawn rig.

I like my current cab for the most part, but I have absolutely no point of reference as the guy I was playing with was jamming with an old Crate with some speaker brand which I'd never even heard of. He had an extra 4x12 which I would use at his place, and frankly I hated it (didn't want to lug mine over there).

Anyway, my question is that I've been turning over the idea of getting a Splawn 2x12 cab for use at the house. Again, I have no point of reference as I'm about the only dude who jams metal in my circle of friends - so whatever I get I have to go on soundclips, personal advice, etc. My 4x12 seems to sound close - but not exactly where my ear wants it to be. Anyway, here goes:

1. For anyone who's played through both, on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rank the actual improvement in tone of a Splawn 2x12 versus Avatar 4x12. 10 being a night and day improvement. I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around 2" of depth making that big a difference in tone, given that the same materials seem to be used for both brands.

2. Scott recommends the Emi MOW and Gov combo. I've been reading horrible things on this site about the V30 (which I think the Gov is based on) as well as the 75T (which I think the MOW is based on). So what gives? Is it a magic combo or something where the combo is greater than the sum of the parts?

3. Anyone tried a V30/H30 mix (or even the Hellatone equivalents) in a 2x12?

4. I've read raves about the Greenbacks and I'm curious as to the diff between Scott's recommendation and the Greens.

5. If I could improve my Splawn tone at all, I would ask for a tad more singing sustain quality for single-note tones. Not that I'm complaining, but what I'm hearing from my rig is a little too screechy and not enough singy.

Dont' want to cause a Splawn vs Avatar flame-war, been through that already - just want some good opinions as I think highly of all of you guys who post often.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[hollywood]

;D You are right about the confusion. I have a v-30 and a g12h-30 anniversary celestion mix in a 2-12 cab. I like it alot. This mix gives a better fuller body to the sound, which helps out since it's only a 2-12 cab. IMAO. ;D I have never tried the emminence speakers. I guess I'm just a loyal happy celestion fan. But I hear good things about those. I like re-issue greenbacks in my 4-12 cabs the best. I also have v-30's in 1 4-12 cab. I like them okay and feel I need to give them more time to come up with a useable tone that I like from them. Hey supercharged 350 just put up a good clip using v-30's so they can't be all bad. I think it's all in what the ears on the head tell you in the end. I don't think you can go wrong with any of these choices. v-30's have a good clean sound. IMAO. ;D Hope this helps. LATER. ;D

[Jammermatt]

Yes, I liked that Supercharged clip as well. The level of musicianship on this board is astounding. I almost don't want to click those links because it just reminds me how far I still have to go, but I'm only 40 so I've still got another solid 10 years to get where I want to be I suppose.

I think your V30 and G12H30 mix would be similar to my Hellatone mix I have (they call 'em H60 and H30 I think). I agree, it is a combo that seems to give a real full sound - good bottom end. Tell me 'wood, in your 2x12 do you find it to be a "crunchy" combo compared to the Greenies or the V30 cab?

Thanks 'wood.

[hollywood]

The v-30/ h-30 has more bite than the all v-30 set-up and the greenbacks have the most bite. The more bite the better at low volume I think. 4-12 cab= greenbacks my absolute favorite. I just bought more of that set-up. Another thing I noticed is the Splawn sounds better with straight bottom cabs. I guess they need the extra volume of air for a more percieved help through lower mids to get that over the top sound. Well not that they need any help but just benefit from it so to speak. That's why I just bought all new bottom cabs. Add to my total of cabs and pull speakers out from the top slant cabs I have and stick them in the other half of my new cabs I bought unloaded. So when all is said and done I will have all bottom cabs except for 1. I am keeping that 1 for sentimental reasons and it also matches all the new bottom cabs.

[Jammermatt]

Help a bruthuh out?

[joshsage]

manowar and h30 mix kicked ass when i used it! Nice mix

[Jammermatt]

Tks Josh. I already have an H30 (Hellatone version at least). I'm really tempted to get a Splawn 2x12 with the Scott recommended mix. Just wonder what kind of break-in time I would expect.

-Matt

[motorcop71]

Today was the first chance I had to really open up my Quickrod with my new OS212 cab with the GOV/MOW combo. It sounded really, really good. I did everything from super clean strat neck pickup stuff, all the way to 3rd gear OD2 and everything in between. The cab handled everything well. Not too bright, not too dark, just right for me. I can't compare them to celestions because I have never A/B'd them against each other. I had v-30's with 2 boogie's that sounded great and I had 75 watters in a marshall cab that I hated with my 5150 head. Those are my only celestion experiences so I am no expert. The only thing I can say is this cab sounds great with this head. Brands, specs, etc. don't mean too much to me, just tone. I can't say everybody will like the Emi's, but to me they sound great. Good luck.

[Jammermatt]

Motorcop, do you have any experience with the OS versus standard 2x12?

Glad you're digging that OS. That was going to be my 1st choice back when I bought the amp, but I just didn't have the greenbacks at the time (so to speak) to be able to buy it.

[motorcop71]

Yeah, I had to wait to raise some dough too. I just basically took the advice of Josh and Scott at Splawn. They reccomended the OS212 w. EMI's. I figured they had tried more cabinet/speaker combos with their amps than most people, so they would know what sounded the best. So far, I am very happy with the sound of this cab and the build quality is top-notch. Good luck with whatever you choose.

[Jammermatt]

Tks bro.

[jameshealey]

Im going either all G12M25's or all G12H30's in my 2x12 cab at the end of this month hopefully or the begining of next.. just can't decide which of the two I want im really tempted by the Greenies they seem to have lots of that classic rock sound im after..