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Post by shreder75 on May 25, 2006 12:25:56 GMT -5
in my experience, it's always the fault of someone in teh rythm section  too true  LOL |
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Post by Patrick on May 25, 2006 12:29:26 GMT -5
Well I got it back and while it plays better (because if the new nut) it looks like hell. REALLY dissapointed:( My #1 now looks like a big POS. The break is very visible and catches my eye whenever I look at my hands (which is most of the time). I always trust this guy to do great work but it really looks like he slapped it together and didn't clean up the glue well. Can this still be cosmetically saved? I am thinking if I have to have the whole neck refinished then so be it. I never did the dive bomb thing with the head stock and I always took great care of this guitar. UGHHHhhhhhh this sux. Dude, REJOICE! War wounds, scratch marks, what ever you call'em, bring out the fact that your guitar has been through the ringer. Hey, isn't that what all good blues men say, "You have to suffer to play the blues?" Now, your guitar looks the part. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on May 25, 2006 13:16:26 GMT -5
Well I got it back and while it plays better (because if the new nut) it looks like hell. REALLY dissapointed:( My #1 now looks like a big POS. The break is very visible and catches my eye whenever I look at my hands (which is most of the time). I always trust this guy to do great work but it really looks like he slapped it together and didn't clean up the glue well. Can this still be cosmetically saved? I am thinking if I have to have the whole neck refinished then so be it. I never did the dive bomb thing with the head stock and I always took great care of this guitar. UGHHHhhhhhh this sux. Dude, REJOICE! War wounds, scratch marks, what ever you call'em, bring out the fact that your guitar has been through the ringer. Hey, isn't that what all good blues men say, "You have to suffer to play the blues?" Now, your guitar looks the part. That's what i am trying to tell myself. Believe me, it already looked that way! I've been playing the hell outta the thing for 11 years and she don't look too pretty anymore. This doesn't look as cool as the scratches, dings, nicks, fades, and wear. It just looks like poo |
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Post by Hacksaw on May 25, 2006 19:17:12 GMT -5
I dont guess you wouldnt want to share a picture of this trajedy? Just wondering how bad it looks.. :-( no need but I am curious.. sometimes it looks really bad and it will mess with you...
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Post by shreder75 on May 26, 2006 8:23:47 GMT -5
I dont guess you wouldnt want to share a picture of this trajedy? Just wondering how bad it looks.. :-( no need but I am curious.. sometimes it looks really bad and it will mess with you... how could you ask such a thing? have you no heart, no soul?? lol |
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Post by Pageplayer on May 26, 2006 8:29:43 GMT -5
Not what you wanna hear.. But, I bought my first Les Paul Standard when I was 19 for $750 brand new. About a year later I was sitting on my chair practicing when the phone rang.. I quickly stood it up against table and ran to the phone... When I got back, the guitar was lying on the floor with the headstock broke off.. Needless to say I was heartbroken and mad at myself for being so stupid!!!
I took it back to my dealer, who was a well-known luther in the area.. (Alex Lifeson even shopped there when he came through town.) He gave me 2 options.. Repair the neck without any cosmetic work, or flip the bill for a repair to make it so no one could hardly notice it had been broke..
I took the cheap way out because I didn't have a whole lotta money.
Well... That crack drove me up the wall! Every time I looked at the fretboard, I saw that crack!
I had to sell it and move on.. But you can bet I never leave my guitars without making sure that won't happen again.
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Post by DonaldDemon on May 26, 2006 9:30:17 GMT -5
I dont guess you wouldnt want to share a picture of this trajedy? Just wondering how bad it looks.. :-( no need but I am curious.. sometimes it looks really bad and it will mess with you... I was going to take some last night but I didn't have time. Maybe during the weekend I can give it a go. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on May 26, 2006 9:36:14 GMT -5
Not what you wanna hear.. But, I bought my first Les Paul Standard when I was 19 for $750 brand new. About a year later I was sitting on my chair practicing when the phone rang.. I quickly stood it up against table and ran to the phone... When I got back, the guitar was lying on the floor with the headstock broke off.. Needless to say I was heartbroken and mad at myself for being so stupid!!! I took it back to my dealer, who was a well-known luther in the area.. (Alex Lifeson even shopped there when he came through town.) He gave me 2 options.. Repair the neck without any cosmetic work, or flip the bill for a repair to make it so no one could hardly notice it had been broke.. I took the cheap way out because I didn't have a whole lotta money. Well... That crack drove me up the wall! Every time I looked at the fretboard, I saw that crack! I had to sell it and move on.. But you can bet I never leave my guitars without making sure that won't happen again. Thanks for that story man  Seriously, I used at practice last night and it is VERY distracting!! Maybe I'll get over it eventually but it is just glaring in my face when I look at the fretboard. Either way I can't do sh!t about it right now because I can't afford a new LP or the cost of refinishing the neck so I just have to live with it. After this whole deal, it makes me secong guess buying a $1500 guitar that can break so easily. I really love LP's but maybe its time to get my money's worth in reliablity, esp since I will be gigging with it regularlly. |
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Post by shreder75 on May 26, 2006 9:53:59 GMT -5
how can you use a guitar with no headstock??
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Post by Patrick on May 26, 2006 11:17:54 GMT -5
how can you use a guitar with no headstock?? It's magic....wooo---eeee--oooooo! ;D Actually, I think DD is saying that he got it fixed but it doesn't look good. |
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Post by shreder75 on May 26, 2006 12:13:22 GMT -5
ohhhhh...
man, my mind's goin' in my old age
sigh
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Post by DonaldDemon on May 26, 2006 15:10:59 GMT -5
phwewww I was hoping you'd figure that one out!  |
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Post by guitargoyle on May 26, 2006 21:05:59 GMT -5
Seriously, I used at practice last night and it is VERY distracting!! Maybe I'll get over it eventually but it is just glaring in my face when I look at the fretboard. Either way I can't do sh!t about it right now because I can't afford a new LP or the cost of refinishing the neck so I just have to live with it. After this whole deal, it makes me secong guess buying a $1500 guitar that can break so easily. I really love LP's but maybe its time to get my money's worth in reliablity, esp since I will be gigging with it regularlly. Sorry about your unsatisfactory repair Demon. I understand where you're comming from, but bear with me while I throw in my 2 cents. I think that your broken headstock has little to do with Gibson's quality, and has everything to do with a clumsy drummer. Contrary to what Craig believes, I think that once PRS became a major contender, they raised the bar and forced Gibson (and others) to pay particular attention to the quality of instruments that they were producing. I would imagine that if I took any LP style guitar,(regardless of the manufacturer) with a mahogany neck and weighing as much as a typical LP, and let it fall on it's back, It would stand less than a 50% chance of surviving. I have a VERY hard time believing that it just snapped from string tension. The Les Paul is not just a legendary guitar, it has been a workhorse instrument for decades and is Gibson's bread and butter. I find it unlikely that they have or will ever compromise the quality of that guitar. On the other hand, Craig may have some damn good reasons for believing what he does. And I may be COMPLETELY wrong. BTW, even though it's no fun, waiting to make your next purchase gives you plenty of time to consider ALL your options and you're less likely to make a rash decision that you will regret later. Sorry if that was too preachy. I'll shut up now. |
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Post by Dirrty Craig on Jun 6, 2006 10:34:07 GMT -5
I do believe your wrong,, LMAO.. SORRY.
I think the pre-80's stuff was really good. Just like Fender in '82, manufacturing methods went downhill and overseas. You can't control the quality of an assembly line guitar like you can a handmade or small batch process.
Anyway, my '71 LP is like no other LP I see on store shelves. You can see it and feel it. Theres no comparison.
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Post by craggin on Jun 7, 2006 8:37:46 GMT -5
I love my Lester...but the tragedy you've described is a very common problem according to the luthier I use. He claims that he fixes MANY headstocks on Lesters and that once they're repaired, they usually live long and toneful lives. Fortunately (knock on wood), my LP has been a horse. I've got a BBQ in the bridge and it is the thickest, meanest sounding guitar I've ever played.
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