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Post by PDC on Dec 12, 2019 6:36:46 GMT -5
Still loving the fully loaded 50w QR? Yes. Absolutely. Although the 50 watt fully loaded Nitro is slightly ‘different’ than the QR, in hindsight, I probably didn’t need it. You can get very, very close to the Nitro tone in 3rd gear of the QR on the ‘new’ voicing with the mid cut switch engaged. The QR with the new/old and mid cut switch is incredibly versatile. I’ve got a friend with a pair of Friedman’s that sound incredible in the room, but get lost in a live mix. The QR stands up to bass and drums much better than many of the pricier ‘boutique’ amps which - to my ear anyway - are just too soft and compressed sounding. |
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Post by jyd on Dec 17, 2019 18:43:04 GMT -5
Still loving the fully loaded 50w QR? Yes. Absolutely. Although the 50 watt fully loaded Nitro is slightly ‘different’ than the QR, in hindsight, I probably didn’t need it. You can get very, very close to the Nitro tone in 3rd gear of the QR on the ‘new’ voicing with the mid cut switch engaged. The QR with the new/old and mid cut switch is incredibly versatile. I’ve got a friend with a pair of Friedman’s that sound incredible in the room, but get lost in a live mix. The QR stands up to bass and drums much better than many of the pricier ‘boutique’ amps which - to my ear anyway - are just too soft and compressed sounding. That's awesome, man! I've got a JJ100 and love it. I usually boost it and it has a great clean channel. I'd love to compare the Splawn 50w and see if it can keep up. Do you know what year those Friedman's pairs are? All Friedman's prior to 2016 were overly compressed and did not cut as well live at all. The 2016+ do much better. Also, what about the 'girth' of the 50w vs. 100w? Can the 50w get close to that punch? Cheers! |
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Post by PDC on Dec 19, 2019 19:51:13 GMT -5
I’ve never played a Friedman I didn’t like. My buddies are new(er) and do sound incredible. For my whole vibe, I would take the Phil-X. It’s closest to what I get from my Splawns. I will say, in full power with the ‘old’ style voicing and the mids engaged, both the QR and the Nitro sound MUCH bigger than any other 50 watt amp I have ever played. I owned a Bray 4550 Deluxe and a Bogner Helios 50 (both gone now...) and although both sounded incredible in their own right, neither could keep up with the 50 watt Nitro or the 50 watt QR. There is something about the Splawns that is hard to put into words but you know it in an instant when you hear it in a full mix and you feel it standing on the stage playing live.
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Post by jyd on Dec 26, 2019 10:53:52 GMT -5
I’ve never played a Friedman I didn’t like. My buddies are new(er) and do sound incredible. For my whole vibe, I would take the Phil-X. It’s closest to what I get from my Splawns. I will say, in full power with the ‘old’ style voicing and the mids engaged, both the QR and the Nitro sound MUCH bigger than any other 50 watt amp I have ever played. I owned a Bray 4550 Deluxe and a Bogner Helios 50 (both gone now...) and although both sounded incredible in their own right, neither could keep up with the 50 watt Nitro or the 50 watt QR. There is something about the Splawns that is hard to put into words but you know it in an instant when you hear it in a full mix and you feel it standing on the stage playing live. Word. I keep looking at a 100w and 50w fully loaded QR. I lean toward the 50w bc the 100w's are just so much, even on the big stages we play. I feel I could get more of 'the goods' with the 50w and keep it controllable, but maybe there's not a huge difference in the volume between the 100 and 50w. I know on both I'd have to use the Loop Volume, which it works fine, but to me is not optimal. |
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Post by splawndude on Dec 26, 2019 12:22:09 GMT -5
I can't imagine the volume drop to be that significant Junk Yard Dog going from 100w to 50w but I run mine at half power (50w) I guess mainly to reduce the headroom a bit. I don't play big stages though - I'm a basement wannabe dweller  |
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Post by jyd on Dec 26, 2019 16:02:16 GMT -5
I can't imagine the volume drop to be that significant Junk Yard Dog going from 100w to 50w but I run mine at half power (50w) I guess mainly to reduce the headroom a bit. I don't play big stages though - I'm a basement wannabe dweller Yeah, cool. So you would lean toward the 100w? And do you use the Loop volume? How do you run it? Thanks! |
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Post by splawndude on Dec 27, 2019 16:31:53 GMT -5
I kinda (coincidentally) answered this over on your RT thread but yes, I guess I would lean toward the 100w for the extra fullness as you described but honestly I can't tell too much difference between 50 vs 100. I run at 50 because a.) I don't need 100 watts and b.) I can save on tubes. I would say if you lean more toward metal and heavy rock and gig then 100w would be where it is at. If you do more lighter rock, country, edge of breakup etc then 50w is what I would do. That said. I don't gig and I primarily play metal riffs in my basement in Drop C and the thing is just a beast. In all honestly, I usually play my QR in stereo with my Mesa Rectoverb. It's funny because each of those amp by themselves leaves a bit to be desired (for what I play) but together is just so massive. For reference, the Rectoverb is 50w and my other amp, Peavy Vypyr Tube 60 is is 60 watts so that just seems to be my happy place. All 3 amps at once is even more orgasmic My amp is an '08 so it doesn't have a built in loop volume but I do have a volume box in the loop (same thing) but it is usually turned all the way up - but yeah, it works fine. Crank up the amp to where it shines and then pull it down with the loop volume. Vol = 10am Gain = 2pm Treble = 0 |
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Post by jyd on Dec 30, 2019 16:09:07 GMT -5
I kinda (coincidentally) answered this over on your RT thread but yes, I guess I would lean toward the 100w for the extra fullness as you described but honestly I can't tell too much difference between 50 vs 100. I run at 50 because a.) I don't need 100 watts and b.) I can save on tubes. I would say if you lean more toward metal and heavy rock and gig then 100w would be where it is at. If you do more lighter rock, country, edge of breakup etc then 50w is what I would do. That said. I don't gig and I primarily play metal riffs in my basement in Drop C and the thing is just a beast. In all honestly, I usually play my QR in stereo with my Mesa Rectoverb. It's funny because each of those amp by themselves leaves a bit to be desired (for what I play) but together is just so massive. For reference, the Rectoverb is 50w and my other amp, Peavy Vypyr Tube 60 is is 60 watts so that just seems to be my happy place. All 3 amps at once is even more orgasmic My amp is an '08 so it doesn't have a built in loop volume but I do have a volume box in the loop (same thing) but it is usually turned all the way up - but yeah, it works fine. Crank up the amp to where it shines and then pull it down with the loop volume. Vol = 10am Gain = 2pm Treble = 0 Sweet! Thanks, brother! |
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Post by PDC on Jan 19, 2020 16:55:00 GMT -5
Spent the day rolling tubes through the QR. I’ve got a stash of really nice glass - but I ended up with the set of EL34-Bs that it came with! It is just SUCH a great sounding amp. The New/Old and Mid/Cut switches provide such a variety of palpable tonal options with the 3 gears. I am driving a straight front 4x12 loaded with G12-EVH which are very warm, very smooth speakers. They allow you to use quite a bit more presence and treble for that ‘glassy’ high e d that just never seems to fatigue the ears. I will say, the QR definitely sounded ‘stiffer’ driving a quad of 65 watt Creambacks - totally different settings to get the right sound with brighter speakers. But yes - the 50 watt fully loaded QR is my Desert Island amp.
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Post by gtrjunior on Jan 20, 2020 10:41:38 GMT -5
I did the same thing when I got my QR, but in the end I felt that the tubes Scott is using sound best in this amp.
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