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Post by goldenchild on Apr 25, 2011 16:03:02 GMT -5
Hi all! Brand new french forumer here. I come to you now coz I plan to join the Splawn family as soon as I sell my RIVERA KR100. It's been 5 years, now, that I crave for a Splawn amp, but at that time, Splawn was not available for the European market due to ROHS problems (I don't even know what is ROHS...  ). But Now, Splawn is available in Europe. We even have a dealer in France. So there's no excuse for me not to join the Splawn Gang. I've been playing the guitar since 1992. I'm 34 Years old and I'm the rythm guitar player/singer in a Hard Rock'N'Roll band called Built In Hell (we play a mix between G'N'R, B.L.S, early Metallica and early Alice In Chains)... Though we don't play a lot at the moment, we plan to be back in the groove and shake some bootys before the end of 2011. The problem is this: Apart from an absolutely awesome clean channel (which I don't really need), the tone on the RIVERA is not satisfying enough for me. Before, I had a VHT CL100EQ that was too much metal oriented and not R'n'R enough . Tonewise, I need tight and punchy low end (the VHT was a little too much in this department) open and sweet singing mids and glassy high end, all with a warm and singing gain that can remain clear (good articulation... I like to hear the different strings ringing while playing chords) on an amp that can give me a beautifull dirty clean tone when rolling down the volume pot on the guitar. some kind of hotrodded plexi tone, with a touch more balls, not as dark sounding as my ex VHT and RIVERA. After having watched dozens of videos and having listened to dozens of soundclips, to compare amps I was interrested in, I came to a conclusion: This tone I'm looking for can be achieved by a Splawn... But which one? During these years playing electric guitar, my tastes also refined to a point that I actually can't stand loosing hours tweaking knobs before concerts and rehearsals. I need Plug 'N' Play Baby! I'm sick of tap dancing to change channels too. That's why the EL34 ProStock sounds so appealing to me. Single channel, plexi-like voiced, tight and punchy, warm and clear (At least, I heard it like that on supercharged clips). Do you think it will fit my needs? Thanx in advance. See ya. Fab. |
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Post by DonaldDemon on Apr 25, 2011 23:35:03 GMT -5
Dude, you are in the right place for sure. Splawn is absolutely everything you described. I actually traded my KHR100 for my Pro Mod and soooooo glad I did! I do miss that sexy clean channel but I almost never play clean so who cares. The Splawn is tight, articulate, aggressive, and plug n play. I got so tired of trying to find that sound everynight with my Rivera. Now, I never have to worry...it's always there! The most consistent amp I have ever owned.
As for which one, you have to search around and see what will suit you best. My experience is that they all have the core Splawn tone and all sound awesome. Seems to be the QR is the most popular and the flagship amp. My PM is very similar with a tad more low end and slightly less bite in the mids. Nitro is even more low end and a little saturation. Either way you can't go wrong!
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Post by speedemon on Apr 26, 2011 12:35:48 GMT -5
Yes,
the QR is everything you described, lots of Marshall character, not too dry/tight like the VHT, and has the tones your Rivera is missing (I went through them all last year, Rivera, VHT, Diezel, Orange, and picked the splawn for the same reasons you listed). The clean channel doesn't set the world on fire, but I find it fine with some chorus and reverb added. If you have the right pickups, it will clean up nice with the guitar volume on 1st gear. or low gain settings.
To get the most out of your Splawn, choose speakers carefully. Windsen has some clips that will help, but the Small Block is far and away the most popular. If you are looking for more "classic" guitar tones, stay clear of the Vintage 30 from Celestion.
good luck!
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 26, 2011 16:00:46 GMT -5
Dude, you are in the right place for sure. Splawn is absolutely everything you described. I actually traded my KHR100 for my Pro Mod and soooooo glad I did! I do miss that sexy clean channel but I almost never play clean so who cares. The Splawn is tight, articulate, aggressive, and plug n play. I got so tired of trying to find that sound everynight with my Rivera. Now, I never have to worry...it's always there! The most consistent amp I have ever owned. Hi Thanx for the reply. Tonight I saw a post on thread I've bookmarked, on a french forum, where the guy is comparing A Marshall AFD 100, a Marshall 2555 and a Superlead 59 with mod 39. nothing too sexy about the AFD and the 2555, in my opinion, but man!!! The plexi sounds killer, even on a youtube video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDALMbE_Xw4&feature=player_embeddedI wonder if the Pro Stock can go in that kind of territory, while still retaining its own flavor. As for which one, you have to search around and see what will suit you best. My experience is that they all have the core Splawn tone and all sound awesome. Seems to be the QR is the most popular and the flagship amp. My PM is very similar with a tad more low end and slightly less bite in the mids. Nitro is even more low end and a little saturation. Either way you can't go wrong! For this question, I found the answer by myself: Pro Stock.  Though I've recently read about the Super Stock wich is supposed to be "Low to Medium Gain" oriented. But it doesn't appear on the Splawn's amps page. But for what I hunger for I'm sure I can't go wrong with a Pro Stock. (Gear3/OD1 really makes me think about Zakk's tone on Harvester of Pain... I don't really need more than that.) Thanx. Fab. |
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 26, 2011 16:25:50 GMT -5
Yes, the QR is everything you described, lots of Marshall character, not too dry/tight like the VHT, and has the tones your Rivera is missing (I went through them all last year, Rivera, VHT, Diezel, Orange, and picked the splawn for the same reasons you listed). The clean channel doesn't set the world on fire, but I find it fine with some chorus and reverb added. If you have the right pickups, it will clean up nice with the guitar volume on 1st gear. or low gain settings. To get the most out of your Splawn, choose speakers carefully. Windsen has some clips that will help, but the Small Block is far and away the most popular. If you are looking for more "classic" guitar tones, stay clear of the Vintage 30 from Celestion. good luck! Hi... And thanx for the reply, too. When it comes to speakers, I've always relied on my good ol' Marshall 1960A with G12T75. Mainly because it's the only one I have, but also because, with each amp I've had, side by side, the VHT Fat bottom (EMI P50E...brick wall madness) and the ENGL (V30... too dark for what I've used... untill now) lost the game vs it. But I have a feeling that a change in the speaker department would be a good improvement with the Pro Stock. A friend of mine (the other guitar player in the band) has a 1983 JCM800 2203 with the matched cab (1983 1960B loaded with G1265)... I'm in love with this cab. (And these speakers). Does anyone has tested a Splawn QR or Comp or Pro Stock, with G1265? Any advice in this department? I've read (I don't remember where) that the SB or BB couldn't be shipped to Europe. Is that right? I have to add that I won't be able to pay for a head and 4x12 cab (Why bother with smaller cabs... Rock n' Roll Dude!!!) at the same time. First, it will be the head, then, months later, it will be the cab and speakers. (Taxes are heavy when you ship something this heavyweight from the US, all the way to France  ) Thanx Guys...  See ya! Fab. |
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 26, 2011 16:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by speedemon on Apr 26, 2011 18:16:53 GMT -5
Yes,
it may be difficult to get the Splawn speakers. I used to run G12T75s with my Marshalls, they were a little bright for the QR. The G12H and M are good substitutes if you are getting a lower powered amp. My buddy and I ran G12Hs for a while, they sound good too. Also look into Weber speakers, those are nice too, have a great selection and prices, and may ship overseas.
good luck!
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Post by Ayton(e) on Apr 26, 2011 22:36:44 GMT -5
Bienvenue!
#39s always sound great, don't they? Don't expect anything like those explosive open mids in that Slash video from your G12T75 cab, though! Those 75s choke the mids of a Splawn, I promise.
The closest setting to a #39 tone for me is 1st Gear OD2 on my Competition (the Competition, Pro Stock and Quick Rod all have the same overdrive circuit). In my experience it can do that tight grainy Appetite sound but with even more shape to the notes and chords, even more squawk! Man, you're going to have to look that up in a translator probably, sorry.
So yeah, I think you'll be fine with one of these Splawns. Everything you've mentioned can be got in 1st Gear, and then you've got two more left!
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 27, 2011 12:49:43 GMT -5
Hi again guys! Merci beaucoup... #39s always sound great, don't they? +100000000000000 Yes, it may be difficult to get the Splawn speakers. I used to run G12T75s with my Marshalls, they were a little bright for the QR. The G12H and M are good substitutes if you are getting a lower powered amp. My buddy and I ran G12Hs for a while, they sound good too. Also look into Weber speakers, those are nice too, have a great selection and prices, and may ship overseas. good luck! Don't expect anything like those explosive open mids in that Slash video from your G12T75 cab, though! Those 75s choke the mids of a Splawn, I promise. And what about WGS speakers? Do you think the ET65 could do justice to a Splawn amp? Heard good things about Scumbacks too (Though a bit pricey, in my opinion) But, apart from the price, would an M75 or J75 be a good choice? OOHHH! And I forgot to mention that Splawn's french dealer imports cabs too... Loaded and unloaded ;D The closest setting to a #39 tone for me is 1st Gear OD2 on my Competition (the Competition, Pro Stock and Quick Rod all have the same overdrive circuit). In my experience it can do that tight grainy Appetite sound but with even more shape to the notes and chords, even more squawk! Man, you're going to have to look that up in a translator probably, sorry. Don't worry. I understand everything you've written. (it seems as easy in english, as it is in french, to translate a tone into words) We have some colourfull terms too when it comes to describe a tone... I sometimes have a harder time understanding what some of my fellow citizens write and say... I'm used to english speaking forums. I've also spent months chatting with some Filipino friends of mine on msn. And I live in a city where one of the biggest celtic festivals in the world takes place every summer (Festival Interceltique de Lorient - august 5th to august 14th, this year) Not to mention I've had a bunch of great teachers to learn from. (Axl Rose, James Hetfield, Steven Tyler, Freddie Mercury, Robert Plant, Lemmy, and so on and on...) So yeah, I think you'll be fine with one of these Splawns. Everything you've mentioned can be got in 1st Gear, and then you've got two more left! It's been 5 long F..@in' years that I prepare for it dude. Thanx for the replies. See Ya. Fab. |
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Post by Ayton(e) on Apr 27, 2011 14:50:10 GMT -5
You seem very fluent en anglaise — I did not mean to doubt you! My French teacher was super hot: young, pale, bright red lipstick, long loose curls, always absently twisting her dark hair around the index finger of one hand while writing with the other... Needless to say, I didn't manage to absorb much more than 'ou est la piscine?' Which has yet to be useful. I bet French has some GREAT tone words! Unfortunately I can't personally tell you about WGS. I'm a Celestion man mainly and have tried with the Splawn: Eminence Man-O-War, Eminence Governor, Celestion Gold, G12T75, Greenback, Vintage 30, G12H30 70th Anniversary, and just about every combination of those together; it was always fun to see what would come out. Absolute favorite is Greenback & G12H30 mixed. WGS always seemed positioned as lower-priced copies, so I've stayed away, especially since used Celestions don't cost much (besides the Gold and 65). Webers or Scumbacks would have been the next stop if I hadn't found what I was looking for, though they do seem a little tilted towards the Hawaiian shirt crowd, who will pay $150 for a tailpiece.  |
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 28, 2011 17:05:41 GMT -5
You seem very fluent en anglaise — I did not mean to doubt you! My French teacher was super hot: young, pale, bright red lipstick, long loose curls, always absently twisting her dark hair around the index finger of one hand while writing with the other... Needless to say, I didn't manage to absorb much more than 'ou est la piscine?' Which has yet to be useful. Thanx... But I'm not that fluent... I actually have my dictionnary next to me while typing... About your French teacher... Well! She seems gorgeous. At least you've learnt words like cheveu (hair) boucles(curls) rouge à lèvres (lipstick) jeune (young) belle (beautiful) voulez-vous coucher avec moi... For this last one, I strongly recommend you to listen to Lady Marmalade... ;D "Où est la piscine?" We have the same kind of sentence for English lessons. Something like "Where is Brian?... Brian is in the kitchen." or: "Oh! It's raining today! where is my umbrella?" are seen and heard often in high schools... Though, not really usable on a daily basis. I bet French has some GREAT tone words! Usually, same words as those used in English... boomy, woofy, bright, and... Too many to tell them all... ;D Unfortunately I can't personally tell you about WGS. I'm a Celestion man mainly and have tried with the Splawn: Eminence Man-O-War, Eminence Governor, Celestion Gold, G12T75, Greenback, Vintage 30, G12H30 70th Anniversary, and just about every combination of those together; it was always fun to see what would come out. Absolute favorite is Greenback & G12H30 mixed. WGS always seemed positioned as lower-priced copies, so I've stayed away, especially since used Celestions don't cost much (besides the Gold and 65). Webers or Scumbacks would have been the next stop if I hadn't found what I was looking for, though they do seem a little tilted towards the Hawaiian shirt crowd, who will pay $150 for a tailpiece. Not really a problem... I'll probably order a 4x12 Splawn Cab loaded with SB or SB/BB, before the end of 2012. Is the Greenie/H30 mix familiar with the T75/V30 mix? If not, what are the differences? Such a shame that the 65 is so overpriced... I'd really want a quartet of them in my Marshall Cab. I still have to look at Weber and Eminence's prices just in case I'd find my grail. You will certainly find that stupid, but, untill now, I didn't know there was a used market for speakers... Thanx for the replies, help and compliments... See ya. Fab. |
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 29, 2011 16:31:40 GMT -5
Hi! Here is a video of the pre production Quick Rod. www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4h5-iTvRQw&feature=relatedI have to say that it sounds killer. It reminds me a lot of the current Pro Stock and Competition, not in the tone, but in the ergonomy. Two inputs, which, like I've read, are equivalent of Gear 1 and Gear 2. Don't know if there was OD1 and OD2. There's an Fx Loop too... Which can be used to lower the overall volume. Can someone tell me if the current production Pro Stock can sound like that? Thanx in advance. See Ya. Fab. |
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Post by bmoore77 on Apr 30, 2011 9:19:43 GMT -5
Hey guys..If I can give you any advice it would be listen to Ayton(e). Lose the GT1275's. Its almost kinda funny but this is the least desirable speaker for the Pro Stock or any hot rodded Marshall type of amp. Tell ya what, a friend of mine got the Vintage Modern cab and it made all his amps sound 100 percent better than his 1960a with the 75s. The GT75's just crush any mids you would be hoping for. I have owned a Pro Stock for about 3 yrs now and it has been great. Didnt need the clean channel. I remember Slash using the volume knob for the clean part the My Michelle on the Appetite tour. Didnt bother him any and I love watching early clips of 80s guitarists when they were playing in the clubs just using the volume knob to go from clean to dirty. Gonna get a Splawn cab with sb's one of these days. Good luck.
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Post by goldenchild on Apr 30, 2011 18:30:40 GMT -5
Hey guys..If I can give you any advice it would be listen to Ayton(e). +10000000000000000000 Lose the GT1275's. Its almost kinda funny but this is the least desirable speaker for the Pro Stock or any hot rodded Marshall type of amp. That's why I'm looking for something else. Tell ya what, a friend of mine got the Vintage Modern cab and it made all his amps sound 100 percent better than his 1960a with the 75s. The GT75's just crush any mids you would be hoping for.  I have to test it again. I have owned a Pro Stock for about 3 yrs now and it has been great. Didnt need the clean channel. I remember Slash using the volume knob for the clean part the My Michelle on the Appetite tour. Didnt bother him any and I love watching early clips of 80s guitarists when they were playing in the clubs just using the volume knob to go from clean to dirty. He still does it... Live. Gonna get a Splawn cab with sb's one of these days. Good luck. It's on my list too. |
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Post by goldenchild on May 1, 2011 13:23:44 GMT -5
Hi!
While I'm here, I'd like to clarify one thing I've read a lot of times on different forums (French speaking ones or English speaking ones):
What does, exactly, mean "Pre-Rola" Speakers, when talking about Celestions?
Cause I've read that they sound better than the reissue ones. Is there a difference that big between them and "Post-Rola" speakers?
Thanx in advance.
See Ya.
Fab.
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