DOD 250 Users- Need Your Feedback

[LooseCannon]

So I got an 83' yellow 250 from ebay about a month ago, inside it's almost exactly the same as the gray one.

I really like its transparency however I have two issues with it:

1. There's too much bass, making it unnatural and flabby, anyone else thinks the same? I'm considering putting the .001 cap like on the YJM black ones to reduce the bass and tighten it up.

2. I can't take the gain past 12 o'clock cause it gets fuzzy\raspy, is there something wrong with mine or does everyone else does that as well? Yngwie's early tone was never fuzzy, so if his DOD sounded anything like this one i'm sure he only used it as a boost on around 10 o'clock.

Thanks

[Dirrty Craig]

Thats exactly how mine sounds.. unusable. Get a Keeley modded DS-1 or TS-9.

[Ayton(e)]

Flabby? Are you boosting humbuckers with it? I've only ever used it on the HS-4 and HS-3. I think 2nd Gear could be too fat for it though, I'd stick to 1st for that Plexi openness.

Don't think it got fuzzy either. That demo I posted of the modded one was with gain on about 1 o'clock I think. I have pictures from various periods showing how Yngwie's was set. From what I remember, the gain was always up high, all that's changed is the Level, which started low and crept up. Now both are pegged at 10.

Remember that the components were changing all the time. You may be close to the grey schematic, but that was never updated. Yngwie's two faves are faves for a reason. They weren't all made the same.

You might be as well sending it to John to have all the good stuff done to it?

[LooseCannon]

Jan 5, 2011 13:06:25 GMT -5 Ayton(e) said:

Flabby? Are you boosting humbuckers with it? I've only ever used it on the HS-4 and HS-3. I think 2nd Gear could be too fat for it though, I'd stick to 1st for that Plexi openness.

Don't think it got fuzzy either. That demo I posted of the modded one was with gain on about 1 o'clock I think. I have pictures from various periods showing how Yngwie's was set. From what I remember, the gain was always up high, all that's changed is the Level, which started low and crept up. Now both are pegged at 10.

Remember that the components were changing all the time. You may be close to the grey schematic, but that was never updated. Yngwie's two faves are faves for a reason. They weren't all made the same.

You might be as well sending it to John to have all the good stuff done to it?

I'm using it with single coils. I'm using it with my Fender Bandmaster mainly.
I've tried it with the Splawn once (gear 1, od 1, gain around 9 o'clock), but I preferred the tone without it directly into the amp with the gain around 2 o'clock.

I've compared mine to a lot of different gray guts pics, and almost all of them had almost the same components as mine.

I've tried contacting John to have one modded before buying this one, but he doesn't accept paypal so it didn't work out.

He says his is based on Yngwie's "happy accident" DOD, but from all of the gray guts i've seen, most of them were almost exactly the same, so I don't know what's going on with his.

[shredheadjhj]

I don't know if you're talking about John Evosevic... I had him mod a DOD YJM308 for me and it kills with my Yngwie Strat. I'm getting very close Yngwie tones. I am finding it kind of hard to get the Yngwie rhythm tone as close as I would like, but I do tend to base his best tone off the "Fire And Ice" album. For leads this thing just kills though, and it has buttery Yngwie tone oozing out of it. I oddly find that I am cranking the gain quite a bit on both the amp and the pedal. I could benefit from tweaking quite a bit more, but I'm pretty happy where my tone is at using it on Gear 2, OD 2, with the gain at around 3 o'clock, and the pedal gain up around 1-2 o'clock (IIRC).

I don't know how the unmodded versions sound, but I would say that John Evosevic is a pro at modding these things. To say that the pedal I have is unusable is ludacrous if it is used in the right context. That being said, it is pretty much unusable with my Suhr with Bare Knuckle Miracle Man humbuckers. If you're searching for the Yngwie tone, this pedal (the modded one I have, at least) is one of the most important components to achieve his sound. It does no doubt add bass though, so I would assume it wouldn't work well for most humbucker guitars.

[shredheadjhj]

And there's nothing wrong with sending John a money order for the pedal. He's a stand up guy, it just might take him a couple of weeks to get it out to you. He claims that it takes him about 8 hours to mod a pedal. Whether or not that is 100% true, he definitely is not a BS guy. He likes to correspond via email quite a bit, and he gave me a ton of tips on modding my YJM Strat.

[stratman1969]

+1 The modded pedal definitely works great with a strat and single coils. Money order is the best way to go. I got my pedal in less than a week from John. He is a very cool dude and has some great stories. I do not use the pedal with any of my humbuckers : )

[bmoore77]

I would have to agree with shredhead. I ordered mine from John and was quite pleased with the results. Had some good tips regarding Yngwie tone plus he had the pedal back to me in no time. He is a stand up guy and I would order another if need be.

[chubtone]

My Evosevic modded YJM308 sounds killer.

[LooseCannon]

Thanks guys. But could anyone answer my original question? Does your 250 sound fuzzy with the gain above noon?

[outlier]

Oh hey, just logged in for the first time in forever, seems like. Thanks for the kind words.

Anyway, yeah, truth be told, it takes me six to eight hours to do all of the mods to one pedal. I've tried different things to try to speed things up, but unfortunately, haven't really hit on the right trick. As some of you know, I remove and replace many of the components on the card, put in a 3PDT footswitch for true bypass, install an indicator LED (I now use a Fresnel lens to spread the light out more), drill it out for a 2.1mm barrel Boss-style adaptor and so on. So yeah, it takes a bit of time and in fact, I am modding two YJM308s for the owner of the unofficial Yngwie forum as I write this. He'd purchased Yngwie's original rack off eBay a while back and rebuilding it with everything Yngwie used during the time frame that Yngwie used the rack. The rack is going off to Bob Bradshaw soon in fact, for wiring. The two pedals I am modifying are going into the rack.

Lest someone accuse me of doing a little spamming here, I might recommend that the owner of the 250 try a .001 input cap ala the YJM308. It might do the trick. A chip change might help too. 250s of the last decade or so have used KA4558s and TI RC4558Ps, nice chips, just maybe not the best for the pedal. I once tried a JRC4558D chip — y'know, the Tube Screamer chip, but it didn't sound very good in this application. If there are any questions, I'll try to help.

[outlier]

Loose Cannon, if you PM me your mailing address, I will mail you a .001 capacitor that's taken out of a YJM308. Lord knows I have enough of them...

Maybe a chip change might be in order. I would try a 1458 chip. I never tried this, but maybe a JRC4559 chip would do well.

[stompboxfreak1972]

My JYM308 pedal was modified by Analogman. Way, way better than stock but still has too much noise and is not good for anything but leads. The pedal mushes up a bit in my set up for rhythm and just sounds best for single note lines.

I shipped mine off to John this morning for the Outlier mod as well. I'm mostly a humbucker guy but my charvel with single coils in the neck gets the most use so I am excited about " unleashing the fury" when the pedal returns.

[outlier]

I have an idea for you Stompboxfreak. Let me know what you think about this: I see that you have some concern about muddiness with the pedal. Certainly, with humbuckers, it can be prone to this. So what I think I would like to do, with your permission of course, is to install a toggle that would switch between the .01 250 spec input cap and the .001 308 spec input cap, the latter included so that you can get a tighter sound if need be.

Let me know what you think.


John

[stompboxfreak1972]

Oh hells yes John ! Better give me your paypal email though !