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Post by cvogue on May 2, 2017 16:27:59 GMT -5
Just wondering what you Street Rodders think of the half power switch.
I love my SR on full power, the "oomph" is fantastic, nice punchy tone... feeds back like a dream too.
Unfortunately the lead singer keeps complaining that we play too loud so going to try it on half power at practice tomorrow.
I test drove the amp on half power and was very pleased... we'll see how it goes.
Do any of you use your SR on half power, is there anything you do to give it more punch? (Increase channel volume, loop volume etc...)
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Post by gtrjunior on May 4, 2017 4:27:39 GMT -5
I use mine on full power (QR though). I just use the loop volume to bring the overall volume down. At rehearsal levels the loop vol is used pretty heavily. More than halfway attenuated.
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Post by splawndude on May 4, 2017 20:41:41 GMT -5
Hey cvogue
Thanks for stirring up the Splawn proboards. We needed some action in here LOL.
I don't gig and I don't have a Streetrod so you can take my advice with a grain of salt.
I run my Quick Rod at half power but not for volume reasons. The volume difference between 100 watts and 50 watts is not as much as you'd think. Think about how loud the AC30 or the Marshall 18w are. It is more a function of how the amp is designed, how the tone stack ties in with the volume taper and preamp etc. And speakers/cabinets of course.
I know guys that turn their speaker cabinets around to face backwards or put those plexiglass panels in front etc.
I run my Quick Rod at half power because I don't need all the headroom and to save on power tubes mainly. Tonally, I can't tell much difference either. Similarly, my Rectoverb Single Rec is 50 watts so for me that just seems to be the sweet spot.
I didn't catch if your Street Rod has a loop volume but what gtrjunior said would obviously help. If you don't you can get a Loop Volume box (or pedal) and put in your loop and that effectively accomplishes the same thing but it is not a PPIMV obviously. There was post/thread on this not too long ago if I can find it.
I think that if your singer is complaining about your amp being too loud then I'd mess with speaker cabinet position and possibly an EQ pedal in the loop to help with the 'punch' you are looking for. That is what I do because I can't get that loud at home and play my amp pretty loud. Maybe even gig levels sometimes. So OD in front, EQ in loop, Loop volume, cabinet placement, and such may help more than running at half power.
Then you have resistance and reactance based attenuators, but that is a different story altogether.
Most importantly - have fun!
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Post by cvogue on May 4, 2017 23:15:18 GMT -5
Thanks again splawndude! (Responded to you in the Quick Rod forum, there is more action over there, trying to stir it up everywhere, great info all over the place and it's good to keep discussions going). I do have an EQ in the loop, MXR 10 band, it helps but cutting the volume there causes the tone to suffer more than using the loop volume (yup my SR has a loop volume). Gonna try lowering the channel volume, see how that affects the tone and also that should free up more dynamic range for the solo boost. It is fun experimenting, for me anyway. Band members don't think so!    |
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Post by gtrjunior on May 5, 2017 11:32:28 GMT -5
A while back I broke one of my power tubes. While I was waiting on a replacement I ran the amp in half power. I didn't notice any tonal changes and there is still a ton of headroom in these amps.
My JCM 800 is a 50W and that too has lots of headroom and is an absolute beast volume wise....hell, my 20W Blackstar has tons of headroom at gig levels too.
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Post by cvogue on May 5, 2017 13:50:27 GMT -5
A while back I broke one of my power tubes. While I was waiting on a replacement I ran the amp in half power. I didn't notice any tonal changes and there is still a ton of headroom in these amps. My JCM 800 is a 50W and that too has lots of headroom and is an absolute beast volume wise....hell, my 20W Blackstar has tons of headroom at gig levels too. Be aware that half power is handled differently on Quick Rods as it is on the lower power amps. For the 100 watt amps Scott disables the two outside power tubes which is why you have to cut the impedence setting in half. On Street Rods (and Supersports) it's a Pentode/Triode switch which is a different way of doing things, probably results in different impact on tone as well... I'll have to do a bit of Googling on that! |
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Post by gtrjunior on May 5, 2017 14:10:12 GMT -5
A while back I broke one of my power tubes. While I was waiting on a replacement I ran the amp in half power. I didn't notice any tonal changes and there is still a ton of headroom in these amps. My JCM 800 is a 50W and that too has lots of headroom and is an absolute beast volume wise....hell, my 20W Blackstar has tons of headroom at gig levels too. Be aware that half power is handled differently on Quick Rods as it is on the lower power amps. For the 100 watt amps Scott disables the two outside power tubes which is why you have to cut the impedence setting in half. On Street Rods (and Supersports) it's a Pentode/Triode switch which is a different way of doing things, probably results in different impact on tone as well... I'll have to do a bit of Googling on that! Correct |
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